o sung wu,

Just read the end of your post (didn't get that far first time around)

Advice: - don't take it all to heart...even my my rants are only my opinion.

I do know how you feel, and more than a few times have felt the forum was rancid and that it would be best if I left.

But it seems I'm still around - for some unknown reason : )

And though there are quite a few here who wish I'd bugger off (or at least pipe down), there's nothing like a contrary view to keep the discussion rolling.

I hope you stick around because you're eloquent and reasonably well-mannered - even if I don't always agree with your stance.

Belly - Quote "csteele yet again lets us get hot under the collar,"

I am no where near hot under the collar, in fact I am mildly amused at the rhetoric coming from csteele and company and how they continually avoid answering any questions. Reminds me of the ostrich with its head buried in the sand

Interesting reading - this thread. Mr Steele's contribution is certainly from someone who either doesn't know what he is talking about, or in fact is a supporter of Islam. I would suggest that he live in Tower Hamlets or Luton (UK) for a few months, then he might start to understand that all the values that the Left usually claim are negated by the really "poisonous" ideology of Islam. For example, homosexuals needn't worry about "Gay Marriage" in a Muslim society, they would be lucky to escape being hanged. There are many other examples, but I'm sure most readers here are aware of them. One wonders then what is the purpose of Mr Steele's stirling defence of the indefencible? Go to any capital city in Europe, or Paris for example, and see the results of Islamic immigration in the "zones sensibles" where Police do not dare to go. The same is repeated in many other cities, Rotterdam, Brussels, Malmo just a few examples. The fact is that there is rapidly approaching a "tipping point" when there will be a tremendous backlash from the European indigenous population, feelings currently being suppressed by their lily livered and traitorous political elite. It is a pity because most Muslims are not extremists, and they will suffer badly. If I were a Muslim in the West, I would seriously look at leaving while the going is good. Sorry to have to say that, but the social situation is now a tinderbox, only a small spark is necessary to touch it off.

Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 8:29:03 PM. I agree with Bazz and Froggie – it is Islam, not Muslims or at least not the vast majority of Muslims that is the problem.

I agree most Muslims I know are nice people individually.

Unfortunately it's when there is a great group of them it becomes a problem. Ask the police if they try to arrest a Muslim in a Muslim neighbourhood who has committed a crime. Within minutes there is a huge crowd of "nice individual Muslims" trying to rip the police man's head off.

Then there are the "nice Muslim individuals" that run the Criminal Bikie Gangs, peddling Drugs & Violence throughout Australia. They ARE competing with the Italian Mafia, The Triads, & Russians Mafia for our children.

All with the tacit support of our Islamic supporters on this forum. I won't say Muslim because they refuses to say whether they are or not.

Dear Banjo,

I got suckered into one of these presentations because it is only if you look carefully do you realise that the report doesn't come from CBS but rather CBN, which I now know stands for Christian Broadcasting Network.

It was founded by one of the most self-serving, nasty, Christian tele-evangelists that America has ever produced.

As always there is a modicum of truth that is then warped into bells and whistles fearmongering.

Dear Hasbeen,

Neither.

Dear Banjo,

I think massive waves of immigration can definitely cause problems, but that is not what we are experiencing here.

Dear SPQR,

That is just like me telling you to move to Israel where conservative MP's are inciting violence against Ethiopian Jews who have immigrated there. I'm sure you would fit right in.

Dear Jayb,

Good to see you. What link do you have for us today?

Dear Austin Powerless,

Not much to add to that post. Thank you.

Dear OSW,

Your post would have a lot greater traction if your opening post in this thread hadn't started with; “You are indeed the proponent for an autonomous Muslim Province in NSW. As well as the senior intermediary for the proposed Islamization of Australia. My only question, is this to occur before or after your pilgrimage to Mecca ?”

I think might be a slight credibility issue.

Dear Phillip S,

You wrote;

“A few clowns got together Hitler, Rohm, Himmler and Geobbels they were condemned by many people but still look what happened.”

Immigration became a vehicle to propagate hate speech, their poison gained traction, Hitler's book became a best seller, and the vast majority of the German people either committed, were complicit in, or welcomed the removal of 'undesirables' from their communities.

It is exactly what I don't want for my country.

Dear Belly,

Same rules apply.

Dear onthebeach,

Talk to me about banning all rabid evangalisers, including Christians and we can have a conversation.
http://atheism.about.com/b/2005/04/13/evangelical-christians-beating-gays-in-the-name-of-god.htm

csteele - A few clowns, or a few extreme radical Muslims stirring up conditions that will potentially make areas of our country unsafe for everyday Australian. It is close to that now. Hitler started with a few clowns.

Quote "It is exactly what I don't want for my country." Then can't you see this is what is coming from some of the so called refugees.

Give them TIME and NUMBERS then you will regret everything you thought about them. (but again I say not all are bad but the bad are the vocal minority with a very loud voice and violent tendencies.