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The Pope resigns

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Stretching it a bit dream on?
Show me a link, from other than conspiracy sites.
One that talks of near arrest, or any intention to do so, in England.
Then show me the evidence Australian head of state stopped it taking place.
I never liked the bloke.
But is it not clear, even to you, while we can dump millions of words about the horror of the Churchs failure in the area of child molesting, it may play no roll in this issue?
I think, may well be wrong, the bloke has gone for the good of the Church.
It could be his own faults and actions.
Or, lets hope, to put a brand new leader4 with ability and a plan in place.
For just a second, drop the fact it is Catholic Church we talk of.
If it was a trading company we would ,surely, think it was first step in new directions.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 15 February 2013 6:17:47 AM
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Paul Collins in his book, "Believers..." tells
us that:

"One of the public areas where
Catholicism has failed significantly is in its
relationship to the media. Usually the Church
blames the media for this and, on the occasions
when Catholicism crosses their consciousness,
the media blames the Church for refusing to
communicate... The situation has been exacerbated
by the sexual abuse crisis; the Church's
reputation has been badly tarnished by this issue."

"A major part of the problem is that both parties harbour
ill-informed stereotypes of each other. The Church sees
the media in oppositional terms: Church men and official
Catholics are often convinced that journalists are out
to "get them" and that, with a few exceptions, both
print and electronic media are dominated by secularists
and anti-Catholics who are determined to present the
Church badly and are always looking for faults and
failures which are constantly highlighted, often
unfairly."

"The feeling is that the media never covers Catholicism's
strengths and successes: that they are buried in a morass
of bad publicity."

While there may be a grain of truth in this claim, Paul
Collins tells us that the reasons for the criticism are
much simpler. He explains that:

"The media and journalists,
when they do think about the Church - which is not very
often - are more or less convinced that Catholicism is a
secretive, centrally-controlled, hierarchical organisation
that is not responsible to anyone except the Pope and
hierarchy."

The behaviour of the Church in the sexual abuse
crisis has encouraged this attitide, and there's a feeling
globally that at its worst the Church has sheltered pedophiles
and sees itself above the law.

This has to change - and the Church now has the opportunity
to do something to change these perceptions by electing
the right sort of leadership. A leader who will not
make the same serious mistakes and errors of judgement,
offering only simplistic solutions to the complex
historical process through which the Church and our society
is passing. That is the foundation on which the Church
need to build, if it wants to survive.
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 15 February 2013 9:31:56 AM
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Lexi you are aware I have little trust in the media.
The printed form in particular is trying not to drown, it will fail in its current form.
NSW Posters will be aware of the inquiry starting yesterday.
And new charges against two Catholics, one a teacher.
The Miserable and constant reminders about two institutions in the Newcastle area, is heart breaking, no other word for it.
And those events, may be the reason we are to have a Royal commission, for sure, after a police officer told of internal cover ups, in the Church and the force, it gave reason for the NSW inquiry.
I doubt, media has done much wrong, in reporting the unacceptable truth.
The Church must confront its wrongs.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 15 February 2013 3:29:16 PM
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Dear Belly,

I fully agree with you concerning the
Church and the issue of sexual abuse.
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 15 February 2013 5:26:04 PM
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Time will tell us all Lexi.
IF the next Pope does not address that issue.
And in my view the need for single only Priests.
We may see an ancient prediction come true.
A very long time ago, I think it was a Pope?, a prediction naming every Pope from that day, said this next Pope was to be the last.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 16 February 2013 5:54:05 AM
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Any chance of making the job redundant, pension old Ratzinger off, give him a severance package of stale bread and wine, chuck in a pair of rosary beads to keep the old bloke amused. Then put him in one of those places where old priests go to cark it!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 16 February 2013 6:13:47 AM
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