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Contribution Testing

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Ever heard of the USSR 579? They nationalised everything & look where that got them.

We are in enough trouble with the huge load public servant incompetents as it is. Make everyone a public servant, & we're all broke in 10 years, particularly if the incompetents are led by a drop kick like Gillard.

China only got out of the mire by converting their economy to a capitalist system. As a command economy they were starving.

Labor has done it's best to destroy our economy in many ways, but not being able to get rid of the useless, or the damn right disruptive elements in your workforce definition inhibits company growth. Once these people are in the bureaucracy, work slows to a trickle, & the more staff you have, the slower anything gets done.

Three cheers for Campbell Newman.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 20 January 2013 10:11:55 AM
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I am talking one section of commodities, not everything as you expanded it to. If time comes to cutting down on public servants, the public should be informed of the consequences and public service given six months to vacate before sackings begin.
That way the public can have a say wether this happens or not.
Public service sackings will effect services.
There are ways and means going about things.
With your industrial relations, you are going against the findings 100%
Published last week.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 20 January 2013 11:25:31 AM
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Public service sackings will effect services.
579,
Sackings etc are words that should not be used when advocating fewer numbers of public servants. Natural attrition & early voluntary retirement can be applied for a start.
Then, as the numbers decline the money saved from not having to pay them can be directed to building infrastructure. This would increase employment. Also, start a National service & you'll instantly reduce unemployment & two years later you'll end up with a pool of better citizens. Cut back on the attractive & excessive conditions in the Public Service & more will use their abilities to enter the private sector because it'll become way more rewarding & beneficial for all.
The trough is too small for so many mouths all at once but if we take turns everyone will benefit.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 20 January 2013 12:15:21 PM
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Indy what public servants are you talking about, Hospital staff, centerlink staff, Tax department.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 20 January 2013 1:01:55 PM
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Too right "Public service sackings will effect services" 579, getting rid of 40,000 unnecessary in & out trays in Canberra alone, would speed up response & action time by at least 30%.

Then we could add performance bonuses after that. The bonus is you get to keep your job if another 30% is cut off the time it takes to process everything.

I do agree we should start at the top. The top 3 layers could be dispensed with. Anyone with director, or general manager in their title should automatically go, & anyone who has directly assisted them should follow.

Any positions that become available to be filled only from private enterprise for 5 years, & wages to be frozen for 10.

The poms had a great system in the Solomons. No one was allowed to work for government for longer than 20 years. This way even senior bureaucrats had to return to their village, taking any gathered expertise, & some gathered cash with them.

We should halve this. Out after 10 years max, not to spread expertise, but to stop the accumulation of long term bludgers. A further term perhaps allowed after 5 years in private enterprise, refreshing their work ethic.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 20 January 2013 1:06:16 PM
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Why not privatize public pen pushers. If there are to many cheif's and to many indians, privatization could be the way.
No good sacking 40,000 and then bringing them all back after the system collapses.
How do you know there are too many on the payroll.
The Tax dept; is gigantic, but is that too many.
Social welfare, Foreign affairs, which ones do you start with.
I can't imagine the system employs people for no good reason, To eliminate some must pressure others.
These departments are support staff, for the people on the ground. If it makes life harder for the hands on people you have defeated your purpose. So give us some examples of the ones to go.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 20 January 2013 2:03:02 PM
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