David,

That's rather a provocative lisp you've developed...

Dicko,

You can suggest six models of god but I’m not sure how helpful that is to anything. One has to accept the idea of a god before being modelled by it.

The Atheist Foundation of Australia has taxation concession on interest held in bank accounts much the same as some football clubs.

Huxley lived at a time when to state atheism publically would at the very least placed one in an uncomfortable social position. Darwin withheld writing ‘Origin of Species” for 20 years because of this constraint and those of a more personal nature but revolving around the same thing.

Although, I think dear old Thomas was a lot smarter than most people consider when they first look at that quote. He uses the proviso, “…without regard to any other consideration…” which of course is a nonsense as there are always or nearly always other considerations. Thomas Huxley was merely pointing out the philosophical truth that nothing can be known absolutely. He didn't live using that as a rule and neither does anyone else who has twigged to its impractical nature.

David

Poirot,

“That's rather a provocative lisp you've developed”

It isn’t a lisp; it’s only the reaction of the facts interfering with fantastical thinking. It’s a perception of a lisp, if you like. :)

David

Lexi my dear,

Seems we've stirred up some very spirited debate, which I'm sure wasn't your intention, and certainly not mine.

Just want to assure you that I'm not affiliated with David or his group - just a loner, and find the the growing intensity of various comments regarding this subject rather amusing.
Certainly wan't my intention in my reply to your post to be provocative, but after reading the comments which followed it would seem this subject has touched a nerve with some members.

Regardless, as I also believe the world will not end on the 21st December,I am with you in wishing everyone a happy and peaceful holiday. As the carol says, Peace on earth, and goodwill to all men. Just loved going through the streets singing carols at Christmas as a child.

(My apologies, I put this on the 'Religion do we need it?' thread by mistake.)

"Just want to assure you that I'm not affiliated with David or his group - just a loner"

Of course you are not affiliated with the AFA, after all, you are a worldwatcher - not a worldhelper apparently. ;)

David

Dear worldwatcher,

I haven't posted on this thread recently. I've
posted at the very beginning to wish David (and everyone)
Seasons Greetings. And David graciously returned the
Greetings. However, I'm not surprised to read emotive
posts on what people believe. I guess like politics -
people can get a bit carried away. I've been raised on
certain rituals and traditions that I find comforting.

Christmas carols can still bring a tear to my eyes.
Especially recently, while attending a Christmas lunch
in a Nursing Home - where the elderly residents sang
with such feeling - the very moving, "Silent Night."

Anyway, I've known David for some time (since joining
this forum) and his posts have always been well reasoned.
From memory, I believe David was raised
as a Catholic.

David,

Your post presumes you know me personally as only a watcher not a helper, and in reality you couldn't be further from the truth but I don't feel it necessary to explain to you why you are so wrong.

However, I'm sure we've never met, as I choose both aquaintances and friends carefully.

Your other preceding comments on this thread provide good reason not to be affiliated with your organisation in any way.

Base any further observations on known facts, not premise please, as vitriol is such an unbecoming attitude for adults to display, and certainly will not further any agenda you may harbour.