Paul1405 says "The Greens taking the moral high ground whilst innocent people drowned at sea was wrong."

It took awhile to get there, but well done Paul1405.

Now, what to do about ensuring the LNP does not benefit from the political point scoring over this issue that may well be what wins them government? I'm still waiting for any indication of political maturity from the Greens on this

The Greens' position isn't the high ground, there isn't one.

One can be a bleeding heart, and let thousands die at sea, or be a hard hearted and see a handful suffer mental distress in detention.

This is an election losing issue. While Labor may have caught up in the polls following a smear campaign against Abbott, and a string of unfunded spending promises, the chickens will come home to roost when the voters judge labor on its string of disasters and economic vandalism.

Ludwig, .... and there you have it in PhilipS recent post above.

PhilipS gives us a great explanation of the housing employment and integration challenges which cannot be dealt with by the current economic / social system. The looming reality he describes is one anyone can see, unless they have their head in the sand.

PhilipS also gives us the only logical prediction for what will happen if we allow our minds to be constrained by the limits of the current/economic social system - that is, sooner or later it will force us to do you just as he says with Indonesia and Malaysia, provocative as that would be.

ShadowMinister is in the same boat as PhilipS on this

INDIVIDUAL points out that Australia is now well recognised as a country of riches and opportunity. I agree. He says it is because of labour party policy, but I think hordes of Aussie tourist's who have traveled the world conspicuously over recent decades hxave done much more to put Australia on the map as a super attractive destination. Whatever the causes, the fact is the cat is out of the bag and the question remains how do we deal with growing immigration pressures, whether those pressures come from refugees or other immigrtion

Jay &Banjo - and that brings us back to the subject of my original question and proposal - how do we meet these challenges & avoid any conflict that could reduce us to ashes? .... my proposal is NTW, what's yours?

90% of Sudanese Refugees say they intend to return home:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/15485188/90pc-of-sudanese-refugees-want-to-go-home/

So much for that, it must have been a kick in the guts to realise that actually no real Australian wanted them here in the first place and that we're anything but an "open, inclusive and tolerant society". So do we now accept that REAL people REALLY get hurt when the public discourse and policy making is given over to White airheads and people who live in a fantasy world where everyone is "equal?

90% of Sudanese Refugees say they intend to return home:
Jay of Melbourne,
I don't have the slighted intention of being sarcastic on this but I sincerely hope that those who do return will take back the idea of why they came here in the first place. They came to a better Country which is better because people value what they work for & they want to protect it rather than just share it with every Tom, Dick & Harry who happens to think they can get their snout in the trough simply for claiming refugee status. It appears to me that if they do go back then they weren't real refugees in the first place otherwise & I'd have thought that they try for asylum somewhere else. Their decision also highlights the failure of the fabled successful multiculturalism.

Luciferase.
As I said earlier none of those who represent the people in the Federal parliament can take any comfort from their attitude to the whole asylum seeker issue. The intransigent stance taken by all parties will see history judge them harshly. This was a time when petty politics should have been set aside and leadership shown. Unfortunately our leaders from the PM down failed all concerned.

SPQR, Thanks for the link to the Murdick fish rapper, According to you Labor can't get anything right, so why believe anything from that commie Labor bloke Bowen, must be wrong.

Banjo
"That comes from my own observations from people i talk to about the illegals" Having a chin wag, and a few schooners with Ned and the boys down at the 'Royal' can hardly be extrapolated as the view of the majority. It is the view of those you talk to, and I would think you social contacts are most likely to think like you. I can see it now Banjo "Boff what ya think of dem illegal" "Don't know Ban, shoot the b's".... Banjo: "What about you Ned?" "All I know Ban, it's your shout!" Next day Banjo proceeds to post "The majority think like me we should #####asylum seeker##### the minority think I should buy a round, how wrong they are!"