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Labor - opened the floodgate for refugees.

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landrights4all,
No matter how often you change the subject you will not win this debate. As i said in the earlier post, if you were a GEBUINE refugee with the funds you would not pay inflated prices to come on a leaky boat, you would fly here safely and then present your case, with all supporting docs, to our officials.

The facts are simply that the illegal boat entrants are frauds who get here by bribery, then lie to our officials. They know that this government is so weak and stupid they get away with it.

Most Aussies know we are being duped and the illegals are conning us.

Most, like myself, can hardly wait to show aour displeasure in the ballot box. This issue alone will bring this government unstuck and rightly so.
Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 10:22:53 AM
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Banjo,
Glad to see you can speak for millions of Australians.
"Most Aussies know we are being duped"
"Most, like myself, can hardly wait to show aour displeasure in the ballot box. This issue alone will bring this government unstuck and rightly so."
Latest Newspoll has it 51-49 and Abbott's as popular as a bad dose of piles. Do you have a crystal ball?
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 11:13:17 AM
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landrights4all Quote "From my personal experience with refugees claiming asylum I can assure you that the department of immigration looks into how people got here from their home country very carefully in order to determine if a genuine or not."

They did a real good job checking Cap't Emad, he was cleared before nearly everyone else on the boat HE really fooled the system so do a lot of others YOU REALLY DO NOT KNOW WHO THEY ARE WITHOUT THE DOCUMENTS.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 11:16:11 AM
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Paul1405 This will be the 3rd time why can't you answer the question?

Paul1405 Quote "80% of refugees are at this moment living in third world countries" - This sound like a compelling winning statement on your behalf EXCEPT for 2 MAJOR points.
1 Those 80% are being supported and kept alive by the MONEY from mostly western countries or Arab countries pressured by western countries.

2) Those third world countries give then nothing but the land they can temporarily use for the camps.

It is only STUPID western countries that put out the golden welcome mat.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 11:19:14 AM
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Paul 1405,
I said, "Most Aussies know we are being duped and the illegals are conning us" That comes from my own observations from people i talk to about the illegals. I suggest any poll asking the question exclusively will get the same answers. I do not claim to speak for others, just my own opinion.

You illegals advocates seem obsessed with Abbott, when he has nothing to do with this issue. The Rudd/Gillard government got themseles into this situation by their own stupidity. Maybe they were influenced by the flawed greens ideology. Further compounded by the weak action of Rudd in the 'Oceanic Viking' matter.

No doubt the parliamentry Labor party wish they had left well enough alone and do not forget that both Rudd and then Gillard both promised to stop the boats coming. This is the biggest wrong decission by our government in history.

If it was not for the loss of lives and the cost to us, the situation would be laughable. How to create a problem , when there isn't one.

Little wonder the public wants the issue resolved and will vote accordingly. Time running out for the government.
Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:25:08 PM
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@Paul 1405,

<<Glad to see you can speak for millions of Australians…Do you have a crystal ball?>>

Who needs a crystal ball.The last 3-4 council & state elections have seem the Greens lose badly.

The ACT:
“The counting of votes will resume for the ACT election later today…It has been a bad night for the Greens with a swing against the party of 4.6 per cent.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-21/swing-to-liberals-as-greens-lose-favour/4324956

NSW
“2012 NSW Local Council Elections…
Ashfield - The big losers in Ashfield were the Greens, whose vote fell 7.7% to 15.0%...
Blue Mountains … Green support also fell.
Canada Bay … Green support was down. ..
Leichhardt - The Greens lost nearly 11% of their support, losing votes to both Labor and the Liberals…
Marrickville - A roughly 7% swing from Greens…
Randwick - … the Green vote down.
http://www.abc.net.au/elections/nsw/2012/council/?page=sydneylordmayor_commentary_include

Open your eyes and ears Paul and listen to electorate. They don't want your loopy open doors policy -- Even Bowen can see it

“Greens' NSW council election flop due to asylum position, says Bowen”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/greens-nsw-council-election-flop-due-to-asylum-position-says-bowen/story-fn9hm1gu-1226470962522
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 1:11:04 PM
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