individual,

I didn't write anything about you being Jay's "mouth peace".

(Btw, since you're being pedantic - you began your last sentence with a lowercase letter...tch, tch:)

SM
From your many and varied posts on this forum, and from nothing else, I would brand you a conservative, but at time you display genuine liberalism. If you were to brand me a Stalinist, I would reply that you are wrong as my interpretation of a Stalinist does not fit me. Call me a socialist or a progressive a left winger if you like, a fair comment.
Likewise I read the posts of Jay, and from those alone, I concluded many of his/hers views parallel National Socialism or Nazi for short. As I brand you a conservative I brand Jay a Nazi or fascist. its not meant as an insult but rather what I perceive Jay to be. At another time and in another place people were proud to be branded Nazis. Unfortunately for them events in history have somewhat tarnished the image.
I take it Individual your "weirdo racists" reference is aimed at me, okay. Then there is "accuse normal people as being racist" I assume you are one of the 'normal people'. It is interesting how extremist like to cloak their radical views in normality.
During the Vietnam War Nixon asked General Westmoreland how could he defeat the North Vietnamese, Westmoreland replied blandly "Use nuclear bombs on Hanoi" or something similar. If Nixon agreed and acted for the 'normal people' in a perceived 'reasonable manner' then we would have no asylum seeker problem today. My point is how easy extremism can be sold to the 'normal people' as reasonable and necessary.

Paul1405,
How is protecting once's life & livelihood extreme i.e. not normal ?
Ask yourself this question; why do we get so many Muslim refugees & hardly any other ? I tell you why, because others don't have an agenda to change the world for worse. It proves to me that they are not reuses otherwise I'd have thought they'd be only too happy to shirk themselves of what causes them to pack up & leave. No, instead they gradually plant this nonsense ideology everywhere they go because they're told to. That is my experience & I stick to it. It is for you to prove me wrong not just accuse me of being wrong.
When the crap hits the fan I'll be there to tell you I told you so.

oops ! I made a typo above. should be refugees not reuses, apologies.

Bazz,

Have just noticed your 24 November post. What a marvellous solution to the problem of illegals. The mines need all kinds of labour, and as most of our recent arrivals appear to be strong, healthy young men who are used to hot climates, it would seem ideal for all parties.

I propose we sack the whole vacillating lot we have in Office right now making poor decisions without our approval, and instead install people with common sense in their place.

Come on Bazz, step forward and throw your hat in the ring!!

Individual,

If 80-90% of Somalians plan to return to their home country, all I can say is that I hope they have enjoyed the vacation we paid for.
Any chance Somalia would pay for one for me? Really could do with one, but can't afford it while I contine paying for theirs.

Cheers, As Tony Lavis would say