runner,

Your rantings concerning "decent women" verses "anyone-who-fails-to-denigrate-Julia/Labor" are fascinating.

You employ your vile epithets like interchangeable drill bits in an effort to reinforce your often vacuous argument. And you do it by suggesting that these vices are an inherent feature in a person's nature....."Your hatred is this...Your deceit is that....your bigotry is so and so....Your envy is such and such...."

Frankly, if your idea of a decent woman is one who meekly sits back and listens to your nasty, small-minded and insulting diatribes, silently cheering you on while you consult your catalogue of derision, contempt and petty vilification, then it's not surprising that you attack me for pulling you up.

DiamondPete>> Csteele, I have noticed since being on this forum, the tendency of several religious people here and several far right wingers here to "often" personally abuse people here, and people in the public eye, who have opposing political or religious views. Regarding abuse towards people here, it's often done "covertly", in obvious attempts to abuse yet not get banned.
There's only about 6 or seven of these people doing this, but they post multiple post daily, therefore the rudeness often dominates the forum.<<

Dunno about that lot Pete, but the old truism of not talking about politics religion or race if you want serenity and emotionless debate is true. But if you do discuss these subjects be prepared for insult and partisan rhetoric.

Closing the debate because of these slings, or choosing to identify emotive discussion as flawed in fact or content is a passive aggressive act. It is like winning by stealth by closing debate to those who do not discuss what you want, how you personally wanted it discussed.

Climate change or Global warming are two of the same things aint it.
Turnbull will make his move before long. Tony will resign from parliament. He has no intentions of running a country, he just wants to be number one, at any cost to the nation.
More carbon tax infested bills, if only someone could read.
The noalition trying for Thomsons vote.
Parliament is full of excitement.
A lady in the speakers chair, A lady in the number 1 position. Women have got the lead, and take no nonsense.
Court cases on, but impacts are diminishing, any ammunition left. Who cares. Abbott's character in ruins. He can't help it, he just can't take orders from a female. He does not have the welfare of the nation on his agenda. etc

Oh yes Poirot,

and your well disguised loathing of Abbott is somehow better than peoples disdain for hypocrisy as displayed by Gillards support of Slipper. How it must make you feel morally superior.

sonofgloin,

The drop in percentage of those who believed fossil fuel burning was having an effect on the environment is not surprising. There's been a concerted effort by big oil and industry and those who stand to win most by maintaining the status quo, not least through the aid of right-wing think tanks, to influence the man in the street on such issues.

As I mentioned, any real effort to cut back in industrial society means a cut in living standards. Most people. therefore, are happy to jump on the "skeptic" bandwagon, especially when the skeptic voice has become louder and louder - of course, usually based on junk science and disseminated in the main by those who are not climate scientists.

runner,

Sorry to disappoint you, but some of us don't operated on a system that catalogues our preferences into categories of loathing, hatred, etc.

I don't loath Mr Abbott. I believe he's not really "leadership" material and he's liable to open his mouth before his brain is properly in gear, but that doesn't mean I hold him in major disrepute.