csteele donnt you dare leave because of runner.
Bet you have come close to it because of me, but at least some thought go,s in to our differences.
I think you have the bloke down to pat.
BUT we should not even consider all Christians, or followers of any faith, are anything like that.

Susieonlines is linked to the sisterhood.
'I too am not a Gillard fan, but I was impressed with her speech on misogyny in Parliament . '

impresssed with Gillard while voting for a man who had just displayed misogyny to its empt degree. Hang in girls thankfully the majority can see the hypocrisy in it.

'I to am not a fan of Gillard but ' I hold Abbott with contempt should be the next phrase.

btw Csteele I cheered and even wrote well of Gillards decision to support the definition of marriage between man and woman.

Wrong again Runner.

I voted for your personal favorites , the Greens!

I am heading that way again this coming election, unless Turnbull returns to oust Abbott....Oh what bliss...

csteele,

Thank you for your earlier sentiments : )

runner you are not alone, others hide behind things like God or miss placed self assurance.
I want you to think, my days among the lost, Christians waiting for a God to fix every thing,never saw your God.
My God preached love and equality, he spoke of people as equal and put few down, I doubt he ever called any one a slut.
I would have, in my days following him, have walked out of the Church, in his name, on you entering.
You hurl your insults but have no repect, for your self or the God you claim to serve.

Hi csteele
Thanks for the YouTube link. It does not really change my view about the speech itself. The statistics are understandable given the nature of the speech and why it would be of interest to international visitors. A visit to a site does not necessarily = approval or disapproval. The nature of the speech would certainly attract interest from a titillaton POV. (One thing surprised me in the older age group that Bieber rated more highly - what the..).

An international visitor to the YouTube site is viewing it from an outsider's POV with no great knowledge of Australian politics nor of the players involved in that week's turn of events. While many may welcome attacks on misogyny what do they know of the situation or if the accusations are true. What is the context and back story.

Mainstream media in Australia know the back story and the press gallery has a greater insight to the goings on. (As much as I am disppointed with mainstream media overall to report more rigorously and the fact many don't want to lose their 'inside' positions with the pollies).

I don't agree that there was a lack of response to the speech even in Australia but it was tempered by local knowledge.

Don't get me wrong. The PM's assertive response to Abbott's motion was I suspect motivated by his using 'of shame' which was a low act on Abbott's part. I still hold the misogynist label is not one to be bandied about lightly. I don't believe Abbott is a misogynist, more sexist and chauvinistic in some of his world views.

The ALP is not squeaky clean particularly in supporting Slipper due to self-interest. Could you imagine if the situation was reversed that Labor would react the same way to a Liberal incumbent.

Also, please don't have a sabbatical from OLO due to runner's commentary. There are some on OLO who define 'decent' females as those who agree with them rather than look openly and with a critical eye at any information presented to them.