runner,

I didn't sign up to anything for anything.

We've been through this many times before. You, runner, are rather adept at pasting anybody with whom you disagree with insulting and vile epithets...such as hatred, deceit and (now) bigotry.

It isn't necessary to ascribe vices to people, but you do it as a matter of course.

"Actually coming from people who have supported the handbag brigade that has made a mockery out of decency it has little sting. Like their idol PM they showed by supporting Slipper that they really have no morals..."

Oh, runner, your "idea of morality" is legendary on this forum - as is your hypocrisy.

Poirot>> An increase in the frequency of unusual and extreme weather events is an indicator of global warming...yes, I know you believe that an unusual event that happens to consist of "cold extremes" must preclude warming, but it doesn't<<

P, I believe in global warming and global cooling, but I do not believe it is man induced...tis the sun....the source (directly or indirectly) of all heat on the face of the earth other than volcanic eruptions.

I believe the entire global warming farce is to distract the plebs from the polluters of our soil and water, which are the only environmental factors we can manage directly.

We are complaining about the weather while energy companies bore CSG wells next to our aquifers. The global environmental movement has been hijacked by the polluters and we are at the stage where we blame and charge the consumer rather than the manufacturers who continue to use the most cost effective and usually the most polluting form of capture and release technology

Er, sonofgloin, how do you come to that conclusion?

There's an entire "skeptic" movement defending and funded to a great extent by big oil and industry - and right-wing think tanks...there's a whole psychological paradigm that dismisses consensus and "scientists" as fraudulent.

Capitalism doesn't abide constraint.

http://www.thenation.com/articles/164497/capitalism-vs-climate

Sorry, link doesn't work...try this.

http://www.thenation.com/article/164497/capitalism-vs-climate

(sorry csteele - now back to topic : )

Dear runner,

“Thankfully the females I mix with are a very decent people.”

Perhaps I am getting a little thin skinned but this is how I am reading your last remark.

You are through implication describing Poirot as not being decent. I am assuming you know nothing about her outside this forum and there is nothing that I have read from her that would give any right thinking person any cause to believe she is anything other than a thoroughly decent person.

The only other person I have discussed on this thread as being supportive of Julia Gillard's speech was my daughter.

I have yet to have any comment of mine deleted for abuse but I have to tell you I am about to go very 1950's on you and the likelihood of censure is going to be pretty high.

Perhaps you would like to clarify your remarks and assure me no such imputations were being cast.

Csteele, I have noticed since being on this forum, the tendency of several religious people here and several far right wingers here to "often" personally abuse people here, and people in the public eye, who have opposing political or religious views. Regarding abuse towards people here, it's often done "covertly", in obvious attempts to abuse yet not get banned.

There's only about 6 or seven of these people doing this, but they post multiple post daily, therefore the rudeness often dominates the forum.