Anthony, the "unkind" remark made me smile, I thought about Kamahl and his line "why are people so unkind".

Not unkind mate, but certainly incredulous, as you are to anyone suggesting that there is an agenda for one world government and centralized control. Given I started this thread with the premise, “why not conspire” no one has told me why it is in the interests of the few that control the monetary system and global trade not to conspire.

I can certainly see barriers such as China and India but in the first world they just about control every aspect of our lives from office suites in Europe.

and yeah Abbott is roadrunnery.

Wmtrevor smells like troll.The US Federal Reserve is a private group of banks who own our increases in productivity by creating from nothing all the money to equal it.Money has no intrinsic worth unless it has productive people to back it.

Not only do these banksters own our productivity,they create all the money from nothing for inflation.Inflation is the depreciation of our buying power by the creation of money in excess of our productivity.This too is created by the private banking system as debt.It like stealing from your neighbour and loaning this stolen money back to him with interest.

If he smells like a troll,knows all the trendy words of the Illuminatti,Council on Foreign Relations,Bilderberg Group etc,pretends that all conspiracies are delusional,then more likely is a troll.

Oh, sonofgloin, the ignominy of it! Anybody but Kamahl.
Actually, you may have a point.
There really is no reason why they wouldn't conspire, I guess.
But if they are, I sure wish they could make better fist of it and get few things done.
If somebody is at the helm, then all I can say is that he - or she - is making a pig's breakfast of it.
Couldn't they hire a consultant or something?
As long as it isn't Kamahl...
And with that, I bid you all goodnight.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

WM Trevor that I am afraid, your advice I research is a flogging with a feather duster.
Here are some truths.
Government bonds are of no worth until purchased, a promise to pay face value and interest on paper.
The fact they are re paid is the value.
Now Rothschild took that name from the first family's shop name.
A gold dealers, he too started interest payments!
Using gold he did not own, but stored in safety at a cost, for others,he lent the value of that gold out at interest.
After a time the real owners insisted on interest too.
The quoted family expansion was the foundation of National and hence the Federal reserve, in those country's the family INFESTED.
The Fed reserve prints non exist cash, all but 20% privately owned!
How tell me please, can we ignore the BASICS of CAPITALISM so willingly?
A bank, any bank, can lend nine times the funds it holds!
IF it was a government bank? ok by me, but it is private property.
Look the subject up, great men including 4 AMERICAN PRESIDENTS have warned us about it.

it all hinges on conspire...[like 12 bankers conspiriring to steal our wages..via libor manipulation[{basicly hold intrest ARTIFICIALLY CONSPIRED..ARTI-FICALLY>>low

so we go the other risky prod-ducts..they know will go much like facebook..[ie fall to half its lol app-raised/value

as belly has said...govt bonds are useles..till THE FED BUYS THEM
and if the fed wants to 'buy'..more..it simply does 'money-tory quantative 'easing'..[ie print more fiat dollars..or create credit..at whim..

fiat = dolar by decree
fiat means by decree*[cause govt says its as good as gold[legal tender for debt..[you can only get it...lol..from a member banker franchise holder*

but you cant 'decree gold'..it has a market value[nor silver
so they stole the gold from our coin..put it in fort knox..then the 12 bankers..LEASED..the gold silver and sold it*

sold for cash a lease![UNDER promise to return
PAY THE RENT AT LEAST*

leased..for 44 dolars 44 cents per oz
and sold it..at the then easy proffit market price

thing is govts/issue bonds..t
heir central bank monetises it
and the 12 bankers control the intrest rate...libor rate..NOT PAYING THE LITTLE GUYS ANYTHING..and only fixed terms for the rich..[for now..

so they/you..addapt more risk

KNOWING they will default...by ignorant c
onned into in/vesting..vesting their value to thieves..who dont get jail[like a commoner protester gets 6 mths jail for stealing two bottles of water...

but steal trillions..your lol BAILed out

well the bails are off*

your out..pleasse return the proceeds of crime
[if not specificly..then generally via the trusts you hold..

paying a form of trust based death/duties..or a trust transaction tax...

the rich tax avoidance
plus thrusting the debt burden on the poor
thats the real crime..

then we get ursury on top..lol
commin sukkers..we got commision for every bailout/sale even liquidation..sukkers*

I do not agree with every thing OUG has posted.
But remember my often said thing, conspiracy's , OFTEN exist to cover the real truth.
If you look, at reliable links, you will soon find these truths.
4 leaders of the USA warned about the folk behind the FED RESERVE.
They hold the right to print money, lend it, reserve interest, all from what? nothing!
This is not government it is international money lenders.
BANKS private enterprise banks, can lend nine times more money than they hold/own.
GFC? what if the private owners of the world cash re call it.
Are we all aware more cash many times more, than all the gold on earth is in circulation?
Laugh at OUG contribution, but only after you are sure you understand the truth.\goggle history of the fed reserve bank.
Then history of bank of England.
Follow with history of international banking.