Belly,
--- Have any political party ever said one thing while thinking the opposite for its own reasons? ---
A fair question.
I would have to say, yeah, that every political party is doing that all the time.
As for the banks, I was disgusted to see that US prosectutors have dropped the case against Morgan Stanley, claiming there's insufficient evidence to have a reasonable chance of a conviction.
Unbelievable. These guys made thousands of positions betting against products that they'd promoted in writing to clients.
It's impossible that there isn't enough evidence.
So, i do believe that this is a cover up.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.a

Hi Belly,
I have just read through some of the links you posted,
as you say it provides some interesting insights into the world of banks and governments. There are certainly some gray areas that could lead to some desperate shady manouvers in the world of the banking boardrooms with pressure or non pressure from governments. This below is one interesting part that I copied and pasted. It is an article on deflation and how it is sometimes very hard to fix even with the lowering of interest rates.
It made me think that we seem to be going through some slight deflation in Australia at the moment. Which explains why there is such pressure on the banks to lower an already low interest rate(or cash rate) 3.5% even further.
What the banks are saying, is that if they don't pay their depositors enough on their savings and investment accounts then these people may pull their money out of the banks and put it elsewhere like land or property for instance, leaving the banks with not enough capital to lend.
Below is the extract I copied:-

Insolvent banks: Banks with a larger percentage of their loans which are "non-performing", that is to say, they are not receiving payments on them, but have not yet written them off, cannot lend more money; they must increase their cash reserves to cover the bad loans.

Fear of insolvent banks: Japanese people are afraid that banks will collapse so they prefer to buy (United States or Japanese) Treasury bonds instead of saving their money in a bank account. This likewise means the money is not available for lending and therefore economic growth. This means that the savings rate depresses consumption, but does not appear in the economy in an efficient form to spur new investment. People also save by owning real estate, further slowing growth, since it inflates land prices.>

This also relates to what I said about wealthy people buying prime real estate instead of investing in banks showing how this can further add to deflation. Well worth reading thanks for the links.

Anthony thanks for an informative link from Kohler. Bloody sad, bloody frightening.

That some of my fellow OLO’ers are beginning to at least consider that if you were born into the miniscule clique of families that for all intents and purposes control the globe, a formal OWG is the next step to ensuring your dynasty’s survival and station. That the left and the right political parties of all nations are subservient to the banksters makes whatever domestic policy they bleat on about inconsequential.

Just one thing left to say. Imperium popili, per percuniam, in pecunia, non peribit a terra.
Government by the people, for the money, by the money, shall not perish from earth.
There is a lot to be said for 50 individual dictators ruling the globe than one.

Belly this is a goody.

http://seeker401.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/rothschild-bank-goldman-sachs-are-both-on-the-list-of-bondholders-getting-u-s-taxpayer-billions-in-irish-bailout/

I got some thing out of those three posts thanks.
Let me say I am not new to understanding we have a problem.
Have had an interest for 3 decades.
But not unlike the vast majority am,still,unsure why the lies and just insanity is mixed with things of real concern.
Maybe that is by design.
This is how I think, if National banks,every one of them, are owned by the governments only,that is us, ok.
Why however do the super rich own and control almost every one.
Rothschild/Rockefeller, just two names once spoken,turn on the it is rubbish switch.
But clearly, honestly it is not so,generations of these family's money from selling nothing.
Few,if any, of us do not think we need and will , hopefully, reform the worlds financial system.
Yet are we chickens? being shown the food inside our shed so we will walking?
ENRON, just one, of tens, in the end is it not true the little man/investor pays for them, or our tax does?
Your link SOG is one of thousands, half of them rubbish? just maybe every single one comes from the same place.

In 2007 Kate Thompson was WA mortgage broker of the year. Now she is facing fraud charges.

It is alleged Mortgage Miracles, in Canning Vale in Western Australia, obtained investment loans for customers by using falsely inflated earnings and assets.

Ms Thompson admits that is exactly what she did.

"I would get upfront commission, I would get a trailing commission. I was probably earning about $5 million a year. It was great. It was wonderful. But it was all a lie," she said.

But she was not alone.

"Hook me up to a lie detector test and hook them up. I'll lay my evidence on the table. They will fail a lie detector test miserably. They are corrupt. They are protecting each other," Ms Thompson said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-13/mortgage-broker-blows-whistle-on-big-banks/4195920
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