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More refugees in Indonesian water to Australia

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cont'd ...

The following link may help:

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/rough-seas-hamper-rescue-of-asylum-boat-20120704-21g3g.html

Thanks to the Coalition and the Greens - the Government
failed last week to pass laws that would have restored the
Government's power to send asylum seekers to other countries
for processing.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 5 July 2012 1:51:49 PM
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Lexi - again you are wrong you said " I do believe that bad weather and
very rough seas did contribute to the failed rescue attempts in this case" BUT Quote "HMAS Wollongong found the boat intact and continuing under its own power to Christmas Island" In other words they called to get an escort at the time of the call there was nothing wrong with the boat. WE should not attend let Indonesia look after them as long as we keep turning up they will keep coming. Our navy went approx 370KM but Indonesia could not even go 50KM.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 5 July 2012 3:26:24 PM
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Lexi, you are far more naive than I had previously thought.
You have been totally hoodwinked by your attachment to the Labour Party.
Indonesia does not want us to have a successful border system.
They want to unload as many as possible of their unwanted illegals onto us.

What I would do is like 000 does, ask their location and then switch
them through to Indonesian S&R.

That is the proper procedure. At present the Australian government is
in breach of international treaty by stepping into Indonesian responsibilities.
It is a lie that Indonesia does not have compatible communications.
We should not get involved unless requested by Indonesia S&R.
We should not accept that Indonesia cannot participate.
They cannot refuse re entry of vessels towed back.
If our vessels left it to an Indonesian request to intervene there
could be no argument about returning the passengers and or the vessel.

Bear in mind that Indonesian rescue area extends almost to Christmas Island.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 5 July 2012 3:41:43 PM
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Dear Philip and Bazz,

If I'm naive as you guys seem to think - so be it.
All I know is the Coalition and the Greens had a
chance to put their money where their mouths are
and they blew it. Now blaming the Government for
trying to salvage what's left is not going to
achieve anything constructive.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 5 July 2012 3:48:36 PM
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I've just heard the news on ABC Radio, apparently the government has announced the AFP will be forming a special squad of circa 200 personnel to engage in S & R and other duties specific to the boat people.

Well, 'strike me pink', what'll that prove ! Unleash these big tough AFP blokes on these poor, hapless refugees. Nothing will solve this issue...permenantly, if we use methods like these.

Sure, they could reintroduce Temporary Protection Visas, reopen Nauru, perhaps, that'll be a reasonable, interim measure.

But, what we do need though, is a permanent fix, if we're ever going to preserve the integrity of our borders.

And sending in this so called crack squad of 'plastic police' will do nothing ! Look at the mess they've created with that Capt. 'whatever his name is, the alleged people smuggler, with the AFP bleating something to the effect '...we didn't have enough to prevent him from leaving...'

Gee, are these blokes coppers or not !! What about the good ol' 'Tarpaulin' Act... 'it covers everything'! Any copper worth his salt could've done something proactive to stop this peanut from fleeing the country. The ming 'boggles'.

The only way to fix this problem for good, is to create an effective regional response - To do that, we need an immensly strong co-op with the Indonesian Government. If not, all other measures will in time, surely fail.

We must seek a strong REGIONAL RESPONSE, if we ever hope to halt these dreadful people smuggling crimes.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 5 July 2012 4:08:26 PM
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Lexi,

If the government really wanted off shore processing they could have accepted the Coalition's amendments and stopped most of the boats 6 months ago. That they refused based on pride is shameful.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 5 July 2012 4:09:32 PM
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