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More refugees in Indonesian water to Australia

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Lexi while you and I do not agree in this area I too can not cop the blame Labor mob.
However others will.
Consider the unsaid claims being made here.
It seems, even to me, the criminals have told boats to leave, or nearly leave Indonesian waters.
In boats even more unsea worthy.
Then call for help! knowing it has to be from us.
People will, like it or not, perceive Labor is soft on refugees.
We, Labor will suffer, very badly, because of it.
But unwanted as it is, the truth is we can do little.
We dare not turn them around, we must respond and save lives.
Folk here forget we have international visitors on the site, we poorly represent our country by saying we should force another country to act in a way they do not wish to.
We can, we should, right now,give that country more existing ships,to be placed there, in the center of the hole in the dam.
In return we have the right to ask they be returned before entering international waters.
Greens, this morning, condemn some to death.
Labor must replace its leader will do so before the end of August.
Abbott's amendments will be a start to saying if we must be hard harsh to stop deaths so be it.
This issue is crushing my party, assisted by some who unknowingly are seeing Abbott not us is going to be in charge of this.
And both us and the greens will have no say from opposition, the place we are headed with out changes
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 5 July 2012 7:21:31 AM
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So now we have given the people smugglers a new game plan.

Get the boat a few nautical miles off the Java coast, call OZ search & rescue on your mobile, refuse to turn back & wait for warship to come & collect them.

It means that the smugglers can now deliver four or five boat loads in the time it previously took them to make one trip.

Julia if you cannot fix this –CALL AN ELECTION AND LET SOMEONE ELSE HAVE A GO!
Posted by SPQR, Thursday, 5 July 2012 7:21:50 AM
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Give it another 5 boats & the sixth one will be towed off an indonesian wharf by an australian Navy ship. Don't blame the PM, blame her moron supporters.
It's just getting easier by the boat load to come here. What are we having a Customs Department for ? Spend squillions to stop some chinese grandmother to bring in a chilli ?
Get real, get rid of the morons in authority. Publish the names of individual bureaucrats who fail to protect this Nation. Sack them or severely demote them. Then and only then can we hope of reversing this trend. A genuine visitor can't get a visa yet here we let questionable characters in by the boat load.
Posted by individual, Thursday, 5 July 2012 7:46:07 AM
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Also we are being lied to in the most blatant way.
The govt is telling us that the Indonesian and Australian Navies and
emergency management organisations do not have compatible
communications equipment.

Absolute rubbish. Of course they all have Marine VHF and HF equipment !
We know this because the Indonesians broadcast for the nearest ships to
go to the location of the boat.

Why the lies ? Are they trying to manufacture excuses for allowing
the Aus Navy to take the boat passengers to Christmas Island ?

This one incident has convinced me that the whole business is a cover
to import all the illegals in Indonesia to Australia.
There can be no other explanation.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 5 July 2012 9:06:21 AM
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"individual" Good point the TV show "border security" on it if someone declares they have a criminal conviction the immigration and airport manager do a big song and dance about how they have to protect the rights and safety of Australians, which I agree with.
But the reality is different when someone turns up on a boat with no documents and they even claim to come from a different country than they really come from. We really do not know who they are Example Cap't Emad
Where was this great protection when the refugee sexually assaulted 5 girls at the Darwin pool or the girl assaulted on the train in SA there are more cases just look them up.
Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 5 July 2012 10:35:51 AM
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This border protection has now decended into a complete farse. Next we will see us chartering aircraft to fly the illegals here.

A total debarcle caused by Rudd.

We have seen them overload the old boats to ridulas levels. We have seen them sabotage the boats so we have to pick them up. We have seen them hyjack the 'Tampa' to get to Aus. They even dropped some of their kids overboard to intimidate us. We gave in about the 'Oceanic Viking' incident, Now we are performing escort duty. Free flights next?

They are playing us like a violin, we are fools.

I am now of the belief that if an armed invading force approached, this government would give them occupation, just like the French did during WW11, as long as this mob remained as a puppet government. The government actually wants this country to fail. Brown was right they are after a single world government where we get no say over our own country.

I am absolutely disgusted. What did our forebears make all those sacrifices for.
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 5 July 2012 10:53:26 AM
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