Wayne Swan is out there publicly stating his education package is aimed at making school goods more affordable.

Now given that many schools today have uniform shops, why then can't school goods be provided, free of charge, as opposed to handing out the cash, as history shows much of this is likely to be spent or wasted elsewhere.

This is why W Swans idear is little more than a sugar hit.

I would also suggest the advertising from retailers, etc, will ramp up, as they all try to secure their share of this cash splash.

Wanyne Swan and Co must think we are all fools.

yeah if they were really 'labour'..they would stop giving public funding..for private schools..public funding for private proffits

stop corperate welfare
i heard on bbc this morning
how a big govt sponcer..now does capitalist gain..for young offenders
[teach them how the big guys..and securities agencies..deal drugs..and dont get caught..

in fact funel soo much drug money into the banbking system
a 'tightening'..nearly saw the banks go bust

yes scratch a crim
find a capitalist

it makes sense..
they so love free govt cash
something for barely anything...[just like the splash
cash gobbled up and banked..in a flash]..not top down trickle affect

too much govt funding..to capitalists
underr guise of aid..[who specificly got our cash?]

the big stuff
not the pennies..

The cash splash is going to produce a surplus. You can't get much farer than that.
Small business has missed out on their cup of coffee, but they want it.

Wanyne Swan and Co must think we are all fools.
rehctub,
he's obviously thinking about the 65% which make up the Left.

Governments like to target education funding increases because the recepients (students) are not around long enough to see if there is actually an improvement in this area (there isnt), same for hospitals (this they like because they can then justify a raise in your medicare levy).

If you wish to ease the cost of living burdens for those struggling, including many middle income eaners, then the last thing you should do is give them cash, a it is too easy to waste and, once it's gone, it's gone.

An alternative, if labor actually wanted to help with education costs, as they have said, would be to provide cards, similar to the ones that were used for 'tools of trade', whereby the funds can only be used to purchase school goods.

Further proof that this is simply a sugar hit.

Rehctub, I’m highly disgusted by this piece of blatant vote-buying bribery.

It’s disgusting politics!

I consider this to be disgusting mismanagement of our (taxpayer’s) money!

Swan and Labor have lost my vote! Well…. they would have if they’d ever had it in the first place!

Oh, and one more thing:

I’m just totally DISGUSTED by this!

But who to vote in their place? Liberals will only do the same by another means (increase to GST they introduced) or Greens who would have us live in a hole in the ground.

Seems most people have missed the point.

The Schoolkids Payment is meant to replace monies that the parents have ALREADY SPENT. So who cares how they spend it now?

NB that's a load of rot.

This has nothing what so ever to do with education, as it is simply a sweetener in an attempt to win back some of the vote they have lost, through their lies and incompetence.

By all means stimulate the economy, but oit with cash, and most certainly not under the hidden truth of an education bonus.

Unfortunately, I don't think they could find enough money to win back enough votes to come within a bulls roar, as they are headed for a good old QLD style flogging. And they know it.

As Tony Abbott points out, if they are headed for a surplus, why then the increase in out nations debt sealing, of some fifty billion dollars.

I swear some of you live on another planet!

"Greens who would have us live in a hole in the ground" that has to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Australians are so fat with wealth, our AAA rating is the envy of the modern world, and to the think you cant throw a few dollars to your country men is a disgrace.

Oh thats right....the only time Australians actually find the goodness in you greedy scabs, is when there's a natural disaster.

Sure, Australia runs on the blood of business, we all know that, however the cost of living, fuel, schooling costs, and all those workers that just hit the dole office are the one's that break their back for you....you selfish whingers. All Australians are to have a fair go......and not just the rich.

Just goes to show how empty you bastard's are!

And you call yourselves Australian's!....what a joke you are!

All you are now....you well off up-yourselves liberalism bankers.....your just a secondhand American assholes!

Wake up to yourselves.

Rinehart and the titanic moron....I rest my case.

Yeah....Fine Australian assholes.

Then you say, we love our children...yeah! just yours.

The Greens and the Gillard government have done the right thing, even if you don't want to see it.

"Iam skilled and unemployed with 4 children and we just get by."

I hear this story too many times.

Think of their children, if nothing else.

You make me sick!

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Whoa there Planty.

Perhaps tomorrow when you’re sober you will reflect on your post and wonder if it could have been a little better composed.

Now just who are you taking issue with?

BTW, in Australia we say arseholes, not that silly American assholes!!

Sorry if I offended you plant3.1, you obviously have strong views on the subject, as I do. My statement was a little harsh I admit, but I like you am wishing for a bright future for all. I'm just not sure our leaders have the same wishes.

If my post seems a little off track it is because these issues must be studied hollistically, one effects the next and is in turn being effected by another. There is a bigger picture.

BTW, in Australia we say arseholes, not that silly American assholes.....Ludwig, you are so right:) arse-holes, there.. all better.
Its this spirited vocalisms that are spoken by the people for the people, and I think some of you have forgotten we elect these men and women to work with-in the collective for our country and all of its members.

"Sorry if I offended you plant3.1, you obviously have strong views on the subject, as I do".YES..and offensive not at all, basically....if the people don't tell it as it is, people are more likely to get a lot less. The nurses union is a perfect example and many others. Politicians rely on feed back from the people in order to produce the best production out-comes for the whole.

And for "Why the cash splash?

In the bigger picture, the whole economic system needs it in order to survive.(any good politician know, if the wealth is spread evenly, the cash thats spent, gets to areas were its not normally spent)(hence ...there are all kinds of people in the world) That money will send the shoppers back through the doors in droves, and you know what they say, money makes the world go round, and it does.

And when overseas tourists see Australian children with holes in their shoes etc, what do you think they say about it when the got home? if every-one's happy,clean,and well educated, it reflects back on us.

On the subject of foreign aid, that should be cut back again! Look after your people at home first, then help the off shore.

phooey....thank for your honesty, and thats always a winner.

Ludwig, Sunday is watering time for me:) and by the way, if you were sacked after 20 years, what would say in your moment of discussed?

Have a wonderful morning people, Iam off for a fishing expedition.

and thank-you.

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Nice to see we are all getting along, despite feeling naturally alienated at our own particular circumstances we are all want the same thing. Cheers.

This has nothing to do with sending a little cash where it's needed, rather, its to do with the way labor has to tell lies about their actions, this time calling it an education boost.

They are doing the same wiht the proposed super increse, saying it's tied to the MRRT, when in fact, employers are the one who will be footing the bill.

They simply can't tell the truth, and that is why even after their cash splash, they are still as popular as a dropped pie.

Nobody trusts them, a major problem of their own doing.

All I am asking, is why the lies?

Just like Campbell Newman and the car rego increases he said would never increase....lies all around seem to be catching. Rehctub, you may want to test your own loyalties:)

In this day and age, the one with truth will live to see another day or as yoda would say "a very short future you will have.

Phooey...."Nice to see we are all getting along, despite feeling naturally alienated at our own particular circumstances we are all want the same thing. Cheers.

Interesting choice of words:)

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<< … if you were sacked after 20 years, what would say in your moment of discussed? >>

Thanks for asking plant3.1.

But um…. I’ve been unable to work out just what it is that you are asking me!

This is not a game of tit for tat school yard touch, this is a government in free fall, desperately trying to win the votes of those they have shat on. To no evail according to the polls.

Unfortunately, while they are playing thier games, doing what ever they can to hold on to the smallest of minorities, we, the tax payer sit here absolutely helpless as they go about thier wasteful misleading deceitful journey.

Which ever waynyou look at it, they have once again lied and been caught out doing it.

Education boost my A...s

They are just grubs.

Here's a poem from someone good with words unlike myself,
Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me

But um…. I've been unable to work out just what it is that you are asking me!.....well, you said in your first post...."as history shows, much of this is likely to be spent or wasted elsewhere.

Rehctub. Once the money has been given, what they do after that will not be the Governments problem. We are all responsible for our actions and most family men in the unfortunate circumstances of becoming the working poor or sackings, for some, the feel of cash back in the hands, gives that very important feel of down but not out and the almighty self-respect that all men need plus independence's.

The free schooling supplies was very expensive and easy for waste/take home for nothing else but the need to fill human greed.

If people are held responsible for their families destinies, one can only blame themselves. Yes, some will do drugs, gambling, drinking etc...however that keeps other professionals in play and like I said, money does make the world go round.

Rehctub...it all finds its way back to the belly of the beast, one way or another.

Phooey.....nice poem:)

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Plany, once again you miss the whole point of the thread.

If you wish to hand out cash to be spent/wasted, on what ever one chooses, then why hide it under the heading of an education boost.

In a previous post you mentioned holes in kids shoes and how that reflects on our imiage.

Even more reason to hand out free shoes, rather than cash.

All I ask is, WHY THE CASH SPLASH.

Surely is not a difficult question to answer.

The answer is very simple and obvious. When at the beginning of the term you take the money, towards the end of the term you give some back buying votes in the process, with the expectation of taking it back again at the start of the next term.

Anyone who does'nt understand this principal should not be allowed to vote for their own good (they might stab themselves with the pencil).

The question should be why do we vote them in again, knowing this. Outed parties should be excluded from running for 20 years, only qualify for early retirement priviliges after 2nd consecutive term and performance based salaries.

I'm not at all criticising you rehctub, I realise you have to ask rhetorical questions to bring the subject to light.

The cash splash is a stimulus, it may just find it's way into some small business. There doesn't have to be some conspiracy behind everything that Abbott doesn't think is appropriate.
Money in the community ends up back in the reserves, it doesn't disappear. How can you call it wasteful spending.
Dead money does nothing for anyone.

There is no dead money. Money in reserve creates a surplus (or reduces a deficit) so we have a reduced need to raise taxes further in the future.

You are right there 579, it is little more than a stimulus hit.

However, this still does not answer the question, why the missleading sell?

Labor has this habit of hiding the truth and the voters, even some from that side, are waking up to their decietful tactics.

By all means stimulate the economy ( but not with cash), but call it what it is.

More lies from this government in melt down.

phooey.....All I do is' I sit back and watch and listen.

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