And, believe me, wobbles - runner is an expert on opening his trap and making accusations.

Dear SPQR,

No, I hadn't seen your answer before posting. The last one was meant for Hasbeen. My fault for missing his label.

Dear Hasbeen,

Are you really telling me to go and take the word of some people you have labelled as conmen? Oh, I see, it is only the pieces of information that you deem acceptable that should be believed, the rest is some grand conspiracy. Think about it, can't you see something slightly absurd in what you have just done?

You claim; “that any such feed back is in fact negative”. Are you really making the argument that effect of the increases in CO2 and water vapour which have driven the natural green house effect to give us a temperature 32C above what it would have been without these gases has suddenly peaked and can go no further because any additions will result in a lowering of temperatures?

Can I have some of what you are smoking?

Come on mate, try and explain it to this poor sod with only primary school physics and the other readers who might also be a little confused. As an ex-pilot you would have had to have some physics training, you obviously are quite knowledgeable on the topic, don't tell me to go and read more just tell me directly why I'm wrong and you are right.

Hay warmest boys & girls, remember James Lovelock, the Gaia man, & one of the founders of the whole concept of AGW.

I'm sure you all keep up with the latest information on the scam, so you will know of his recent interview with MSNBC. Yes that's right, the one where he said that he, & Al Gore were "unnecessarily alarmist" in the past with their pronouncements on global warming.

Of course many of us tried to tell him, & you lot, that he was talking cr4p, but in the words of the song, "you wouldn't believe me".

Still I'll bet all that "unnecessarily alarmist" talk was great for promoting book sales, & boosting lecture rates. I wonder if he expects us to believe it was an accident?

Hasbeen good morning, how are your day Lilly's.
Mate I get via your posts on the subject you got your knowledge from John Laws and Alan Jones on this subject.
SPQR has not answered my claim the science told us years ago more rain and less, more storms higher tides are part of global warming.
Councils and city's around Australia and the world, are planning for Global warming.
Recent unheard of flooding in Asia is conveniently ignored.
A handful of experts on every thing except climate are worshiped for calling us warmest alarmists.
Rather like those paid THINGS,in medical coats explaining how tests proved tobacco was safe.
A whole Library of books await telling about just how power privilege and influence hood winked so many so often.
And it will be about such as SPQR and hasbeen.

The cost of climate change will never be this cheap again, as today.
It's hard to think that some still can't agree that nature has been compromised.
By far the biggest man made compromise is CO2, Beyond the levels of what nature intended.
Oil and coal being used all around the world has got to be the blame.
This sounds simple enough, we stop CO2.
In WA i seen road trains running on gas, so that is a big improvement.
Diesel trains, put them on gas. [ natural or manufactured.]
New motor vehicles are being manufactured to be electric or gas.
Those alterations would have to drop the import of fuels drastically.

After decades of carelessly dumping noxious gases and
particulates into the atmosphere
Lexi,
Most people know that, it's a no-brainer. The question is what can we do about it to change it ? At this stage, nothing ! You can not rewind the change that has been going on for several hundred years now by fining those who simply supply the demand for commodities by those who condemn the manufacturers. It has been stated to saturation point that you can't stop climate change no matter what you do. Climate change caused by mankind or otherwise is a progress. It isn't something that hits suddenly therefore it can't be stopped suddenly.
Pollution will continue for as long as human stupidity continues. Just look at all the pollution emanating from the war oil fires, bombs, crashes, destruction, sinking ships etc.
No tax can stop stupidity when the tax itself is borne of stupidity.
All we can do is really get alternative fuels & lubrication asap. much of it is already at hand but not yet available. The other one is that people curb their demands for everything polluting. Stop demanding Air Conditioning & other comfort commodities. That will slow down climate change by a smidgeon but it will not stop it. Start building on hills.