We must get off Coal and Oil.
579,
Then lead by example and stay away from your computer !

Planet 3.1 well I have never agreed with planet 3, so that was my thoughts.
Lexi a touch of brilliance in your posts.
You have the answer, to what is driving politics to the edge of decency and this issue.
Also stopping new fuels and quite a lot.
We, believers, must not take the bait.
OK some true left are involved, and true right are behind the opposite views.
Both damage the truth.
Let us look Abbott first said man is effecting climate change.
Then unseated a far better man by SAYING HE NO LONGER DID! not evidence he has changes his mind he is not to be believed on any issue.
Conservatives however take the same cutting target to the election, but a different way of achieving it.
In this year alone world wide, other country's are starting reduction schemes.
And most people , far more than half, say they believe man is impacting on climate change.
Lexi HIGHLIGHTS this truth , our future is put in danger by the interests of big money big influence and that is the battle yet to be fought.
Take back our world or be slaves forever.
Now ample pages from every side exist to learn much.
Say, just for the sake of debate, man is not contributing!if you must.
But global warming is real and increasing faster than we have been told.
What are the impacts?
Lexi one day I would want an end to left right fighting, minority's always lead away from solutions.
And a middle road intent on the best out comes for all.
Planet 3.1 do not let the trash talkers get you down, some from the opposite side actually can put the point well without denigrating us.

Plant,

<<GMF to adapt in this drying world, or.....well.....lets just wait around and see what happens, I bet I'll have the last laugh.>>

A funny thing happened -- here in eastern OZ --on our way to adapting to a AGW afflicted world. All the farmers and market gardeners, heeded our esteemed Australian Climate Commissioner, who prophesized a dry world where all the dams and streams would run dry.And went out and brought and sowed drought resistance crop seed.

It hasn’t stopped raining since and most of those dry conditions loving strains have drowned.

We would be laughing now too , except we’re up to our chins in flood water, and too afraid to open our mouths!

Dear SPQR,

Without the natural greenhouse effect the average world temperature would be -18C instead of 14C. After water vapour, CO2 is the next largest contributor. What law of physics would you like me to ignore to come to the conclusion that a doubling of CO2 will have zero effect on the climate of this planet?

Some believe in people that say they can see into the future.
Forecasting weather is hard enough from day to day let alone predicting a flood or drought.
Predictions probably will become even more erratic, Forecasters are battling to keep up with change, as storm cells have a mind of their own.
A lot of time has been lost in the repair of our air space, probably means more dollars to compensate.

Csteele,

<< What law of physics would you like me to ignore to come to the conclusion that a doubling of CO2 will have zero effect on the climate of this planet>>

Now it is possible that I missed it, but I don’t recall writing anywhere that CO2 had "zero effect"!
Please refer me to my post where I made that claim.

I am sure CO2 does impact on the environment --so does a ferret farting in French Guyana -– the question is to what degree.

On the other hand CSteele, let me ask you: what airy fairy law or insight tells you that OZ imposing a carbon tax will STOP climate change?