*Runner* I am not making up lies as you allege as I have no need and no desire to do so.

The matter of *Abbott's* opposition to going after those who covered up for pedophiles and allegedly knowingly shifted them from parish to parish, thereby inflicting more tragedy on the innocent and unsuspecting, has now more than once been aired publicly that I recall and has not been denied to date that I am aware of.

Certainly, in addition to this, if *Abbott* has a concern about these affairs I have not heard him advocate for pursuing them and holding them to account as you would reasonably expect to be the lot of anyone who is alleged to have committed such heinous deeds.

Further, as anyone familiar with my views would note, I am certainly no fan of the ALP either, as they too in my view are guilty of abusing people including children.

Because of your apparent mental blocks in this regard, you rapidly deteriorate into irrationale and illogical accusations which have no basis in fact.

As to the evidence, again, I am sure that I have heard it with my own ears as broadcast on free to air television. I could of course seek additional information (time permitting) but as their has been no denial in response to that which has been publicly aired, I consider that it is highly likely to be true, and a sad indictment of the mainstream media that they have not as yet rammed the point home like a stake through his black heart.

It seems that it is difficult for you to accept this as it is contrary to your belief, but as for me as I am now, I largely do not waste time and effort attaching belief in the absence of fact and consequently do not experience as much psychic trauma as perhaps you do.

Dream on, now is not the time to be worrying about a budget surplus.

With thousands either loosing thei jobs, or feeling very insecure about their jobs, government projects a what is needed.

BUT!, they must be administered by competent people, something this government is very very short of.

Dreamon is a good moniker for you. For starters this thread is about the shocking behaviour of Peter slipper, not for you to air your all encompassing view on everything. You spout fantasies and dismiss any need to give a shred of evidence for your rambling pontification, as if your words are like a shaft of golden light whilst all around is darkness.

Please mention where Abbott has opposed pursuing paedophiles, or even better, where any Labor politician has done more.

The best I can say is that I believe that you believe it.

OK SM, this thread is about Peter Slipper, with the odd reference to Craig Thomson thrown in.

Something to think about for all those so-called "Christians" out there who are baying for the blood of both these men.

They have family members who are being constantly subjected to the abuse and, as yet, unproven accusations against Mr Slipper and Mr Thomson. I believe your illustrious leader of the noalition is supposed to be a practising Catholic.

Isn't the basis of Christianity supposed to be one of judge not lest ye be so judged? Give the families of these men a break and give due process a chance. After all, the families are NOT the politicians, and deserve to be able to live their lives regardless of the accusations against the two men.

NellsBells

'Something to think about for all those so-called "Christians" out there who are baying for the blood of both these men.'

Oh so its alright for the atheist and darwinist and unbelievers to call for the resignation of men using workers money to pay for prostitutes but not Chritians. Not only do you display Abbottphobia but also Christophobia. I thought Darwin dogma was not suppose to discrimminate.

Runner. It is not illegal to pay prostitutes with a credit card, it's a matter of if the prostitute was an agreed commodity.
If the prostitute was for personal use, it would have been appropriate for him to reimburse his credit card with the amount paid for prostitute.
Now do you know which circumstance that was ?.
We can not be seen to behave like animals, because of accusations.
Thompson's accusations are remote as he has not been a union head for years., and there are bigger fish to fry.
Until accusations become proven facts it is not appropriate to assume guilt, of any one.