'On one side of the chamber we have the crazy Abbott and his band of mad monks, the Catholic loonies on the other side are now joined by the perverted priest'

Oh is that right Paul 1405. You now call adult homosexuality 'perverted'. How quickly you have changed your mind.

Runner, Its my belief all priests are perverted dictionary meaning 'turned from what is right; wicked; misguided; distorted.' One has to be perverted to be a priest, in my view. Where did you get the homosexual thing from, I do not consider all homosexuals to be perverted,although some could be, do you? Why did you link homosexuality with perversion? I consider the bloke from Norway to be perverted, but I don't know if he is homosexual, in fact I don't know anything about his sexual orientation at all, but still think he is perverted, 'turned from what is right; wicked; misguided; distorted.'
Over to you.

Paul 1405

Oh I see it was not Slipper's alleged offenses you were calling perverted. Its because he is a 'priest'.

You write

'Its my belief all priests are perverted '

Your bigotry knows no limits. Not surprising from a secularist with no moral compass.

Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 26 April 2012 3:02:52 AM

*DreamOn*

" ... A piece of advice, don't smoke a fat one before posting, then maybe your posts will show some coherence and logic. P.S. quoting yourself is pathetic. ... "

More unsubstantiated opinion I see *Shadow* I suspect that it is because deep down you find my argument re:abuse compelling that you react as you do.

I recall that even *John Howard* expressed inner conflict over this and I suspect that even *Abbott* does too. As said on other occasions, I do not find him to be entirely devoid of merit however, this behavior must stop in my view, and until such time as it does and I remain able, then you may expect to be verballed by me, amongst others.

It is not such an onerous burden to desist from the abusive practices and those responsible would do us all proud to rise to the occasion.

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I note more riots in at least one of the detention facilities in recent days which I have not seen reported, and that only one door and alleged inadequate security stands between the admin staff and distressed "inmates."

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As for *Slipper* I agree that he should step aside until both matters are resolved.

If the ALP cabinet has requested that he only stand aside for one and not the other, then I think a "leak" ought be considered.

As for *Thompson* well, I have to agree that this is farcical and hope that more than sabre rattling, departments all across the board will be legislatively upgraded in the future to minimise the likelihood of this happening again.

Dream on,

I don't find any part of your unsubstantiated opinion or abuse compelling.

When KRudd took power, there were 4 boat people in detention and no children. All your bile and venom should then be reserved for Labor.

I see that Bill Shorten is now trying for a cover up to suppress the Tembe report (which is reportedly going to supply serious dirt on Williams and Thompson) by taking direct control of the union.

You really are rather slow aren't you *Shadow* and as blinkered in your blind faith support of the LNP as is *Runner*

I am least able to make positive comment on certain aspects of LNP policy, but that does not include their child abusing penchant.

The abuse was, is and no doubt if things do not change will be continued by the ALP and the LNP alike against children. It is not abuse to state my views of those responsible in an unflattering way, as it is merely "calling a spade a spade."

It really does sicken me when the likes of these abusers and their supporters like you express the view that you are worthy of respect and being spoken to politely.

As for your claimed facts, a think you better return with your tail between your legs for another top up in your bucket to help you get your facts straight.

Suffice to say that I know more than one person who works on the inside of these facilities, have visited them myself in the past and can confidently state that as bad as what we see reported is, it is but the tip of the iceberg.

Only a fool would delude themselves into believing that they could accurately predict on a case by case basis what a legitimate *Asylum Seeker* needs to do in order to save themselves and get out and in that they are deserving of our support if we choose to remain in the convention.

Otherwise, I would again simply suggest that the mainstream politicians as a majority merely need to withdraw, instead of bringing this country into further international disrepute, and in that regard I note the recent news that the ugly guvment are now again in open defiance of the UN.

Have the courage of your convictions and simply withdraw from those instruments etc that you are not willing to wholly implement into local law.