My advice to Mr Rudd at this time is NOT to challenge
the PM for leadership of the Party.
Let her lead the party into the next election
and lose.

The inevitably of a Liberal Party win for a few
years in government is appears to be almost guaranteed.
Let the people
see for themselves the disaster of life under Mr Abbott
and Co. THEN, at the next election Mr Rudd could
challenge for the leadership - and guarantee
a Labor victory for many years to come.

This strategy would also embarrass Mr Rudd's current opponents
in the Labor Party.

Lexi,
You are right, there is no hope for Labor no matter who is PM after Monday.

The next election will see a wipe out of most of the current Labor members and they can introduce new blood over a few elections. That would have to be better than the current mob and they might even get a benefit of an Abbott failure. Turnbull could even change sides and become Labor leader, that would be good.

Also bear in mind that the Libs will be flat out paying for the current Labor debt, so unlikely to have funds to build any major infastructure.

And we get benefits like no carbon tax, the boats stopped and the complete death of multiculturalism. Too much to expect a dramatic drop in immigration though.

Yep, responsible government begins with the next election.

Dear Banjo,

The sad thing about all this is that this fight is
not about policy but about personal ambition and
personalities and I think it will do severe damage to the
Labor Party as a result. The only winners that I can
see are - the Coalition and the Greens.

Oh Lexi please. I don't know if I could stand much more of our electronics filled with these 2 drop kicks. I do think you may get your wish, he won't be challenging, unless his numbers improve drastically. I may have to emigrate, or elope or something to get away from them.

What are you doing next week?

Up here the ABC are in love with Rudd, & have been bleating about him for weeks, it really is a bit much. I gather you have a Julia clique on the ABC down there.

On the other forecast, don't hold your breath. I"m getting a feeling that Tony is going to be so good, that he may challenge Menzies for the crown of longest serving PM, before he retires.

Wouldn't that be wonderful. We could use a bit of stability after 4 years of Labor.

Don't be too sure you want that "new blood" in the Labor party Banjo, have you thought where that blood would come from.

I think you'll find it would mostly be in the form of graduates of the young labor movement from our larger city universities.

Can you imagine an influx of arts/law graduates, [like Julia] flooding the halls of power. We'd all be screaming for a return of the pensioned off union bosses, who had at least seen someone working, even if they had not actually done any themselves.

They would be as incoherent as the old Democrats, but with out the redeeming character of an ideology. Please don't wish that upon us.

Hasbeen, are you anti-graduate, or just anti ALP graduate?

You are aware that Abbott is a graduate are you not?

He has never driven a tractor, has no idea how to milk a cow, has not a clue where eggs come from, cannot weld, dig a hole, lay bricks, work in a bank, or sell brussell sprouts in a green grocer (like Maggie).

He's 'u akademiklee'trained goose too.

Oh, and he rides a bike FOR WHICH HE PAYS NO REGO! No rego hasbeen! Imagine that, bludging on we car drivers. NO REGO!

Now, yer man you loath, Turnbull, he's a real worker. Law degree,banker, IT firm creator, all sorts. A real liberal in the Menzies tradition, not a clapped out ex monk.

Where would the nation be without people with uni' training hassie?

Not everyone can come up from driving a dray to owning Linfox old boy.

There's no more drays to drive, after all.

Time for you to get over your very Stalinist-Maoist hatred of 'intellectuals'.

Why, a course in the Humanities might even broaden your mind!