Hasbeen "So now you have the hide to assume to advise the libs on who they should chose to lead them. With your record, your recommendation must be the kiss of death."

I've found it amusing to see Labor members pointing out how unsuited Tony Abbott is for the PM's job given their history of choice of leaders.

Just looking at a few recent ones
- Hawke, from what I've read a serial cheat on his marriage
- Keating, sets the standard and arrogant and the devisive politics apparently so hated by Labor supporters.
- Beasley, seemed to be a decent guy but unelectable over a long period.
- Latham, we dodged a bullet.
- Rudd, reportedly described by one collegue as a psycopath. At best very difficult to work with and two faced.
- Gillard, seemingly no problems at all with habitual lying. Even what's been admitted in the last couple of days shows how many lies were told when Rudd was deposed.

I don't know enough about Crean but my impression is of a bully given to misuse of power. Less than favorable recollections of Whitlam and Hayden (although Hayden seemed to do a good job as GG).

Perhaps Abbott does lack what he needs to be a good PM, I'm not a big fan but given Labors track record in picking leaders I think I'll treate their recomendations on that front with the respect they deserve.

R0bert

Yes, I'm with you on that one indi, enough is enough.

I to have taken a huge hit from the actions of these incompitent fools.

Just watched Rudds media conference, he was brilliant in my view and I would vote for him tomorrow.

The trouble is, whoever leads the labor party will always come a distant second to the faceless men, as it is they who actually run the country.

Of cause, he can always joint the other team.

Even if Julia wins the ballot, contested by Rudd or not, the people have lost all trust and respect for her.

She is a back stabbing liar. Nothing more.

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After adopting the lotus position and chanting this for several minutes I experienced a warm inner glow and hallucinated that Tony Abbott is PM. Try this yourselves! I think I even saw Christopher Pyne held aloft on a fluffy cloud by a troupe of captains of industry heralded by a Fairfax fanfare!

Read all the posts here with much amusement.

I agre with Indi and Robert. We now have Labor supporters trying to tell the Libs who should be their leader. After the last few Labor leaders, that has to be the best joke of the year.

Abbott is untried, and yet they critisize him as unsuitable. Let me say that anyone could be better than the current mob.

The last few years have shown they could not run a raffle in a pub on friday afternoon. They have spent our money like drunken sailors, with nothing to show for it.

It will be amusing to see what happens on Monday.

Labor deserves the turmoil, for always putting up a messiah instead of a team leader. Rudd failed and they went for Gillard hoping to get the womens vote. Another failure.

Wow rehctub, how can 2 people have such different perceptions.

I heard Rudd's speech, for that is what it was, & after a while, I had to turn it off. I could not stand the smug self satisfaction oosing out of my radio. The bloke was putting it on with a knife.

The loudest message I got was his condescension in talking to all his inferiors. How anyone could not detect it I find hard to believe. You are obviously more generous than me, & are prepared to take him at his own assessment of himself.

Sorry, I simply hear a schooled linguist, saying one thing in words, but with absolutely no commitment to the meaning. It is all slime, when ever he speaks in public. If I hadn't turned the radio off I would have been sick.

I'll bet he practiced the thing in front of a mirror. With Rudd it's is all an act, & he is playing injured, but brilliant leader. Well, many fall for it, but I don't think he is that however, I don't like Geoffrey Rush either.

im..leaning to where has been is[was?]
im sick of hearing their voices

sick of hearing one point up
or two points down...all this destraction..
and nuthin on the doings govt just keeps on doing...[on behal;f of those faceless few...with the ear of the liar who delivers]

juliars negotiations ith stakeholders
didnt extend to the mugs[the smokers]
who' apparently dont have a stake'

so if yiour not into it lobbying for your own cash cow
[like that 10 billion 'green fund'..or the other purk lurks
like spending tax money..on adverts against smokers/pink batts
or free computers..or free school buildings[as long as they arnt for actual teaching]

how about that neat lobbied postition re the nbn
or the govt pension trust fund managment

or at the state level..beurocroratic control of semi privatised water/power/phone..and tv/radio etc etc

a nice govt warrented cash cow..
just like the licence to print money
from when govt gave the fed to the bankser's

its a rather endless list
who ever gets in must clean out the lobby
listen to all his members..and so much more not one of the current mob are capable of doing[i hesitate to name even one..but yabby named him once]

rudd has a steady mid thirties support
juliar has double..but both should go
or the one will destroy the other

get behind that other leftie
put all power brokers in their requested minestry
but the faceless out of the loop

[all govt minesters meetings..should be recorded
[released publicly..at election time

only that true reform
can beat the hockey/turbull abbot
rush to the slush funding machine..[that passes as governance]