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Does Julia deserve to survive?

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Dear Indy,

The voters will get it right in
2013.
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 24 February 2012 7:55:24 PM
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Julia has not survived.
She in all probability will enter Parliament as Prime Minister on Tuesday.
Attempts to make lite of these days, her supporters bile, will be made but fail.
Her polling low always,is never to return to preferred leader.
She has entered the twilight zone, no way back, only out.
Another candidate will rise, maybe Rudd too.
But only Tony Abbott can save Labor from two terms in opposition.
[Individual by this I say he is so bad he may force voters back to Labor]
The knife waiting for Gillard, will come from the hands that put her there.
And the replacer is strongly supporting her now.
I feel betrayed, my party is not acting like a Democratic one.
People, voters, public, want one candidate Caucus another.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 24 February 2012 8:01:44 PM
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Dear Belly,

Caucus knows that Mr Rudd will not tolerate their
influence and that he also plans to bring in reforms
to lessen their control. Of course they're not about
to support him. And the PM is their choice. She seems
to be content to do as she's told. A pity for Australia.
A pity for the Labor Party. She will win Monday's spill.
She has the numbers. Still one can dream - and hope.
Abbott is not an option for any thinking person.
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 24 February 2012 8:07:26 PM
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Lexi, the voters got it right in the last election too.

They did not want either Abbott or Gillard.

The move to a supported government was legitimate though, given the voters actions.

Abbott could have been King, but for the fact the independents did not see him as a reliable alternative.

It is Abbott's fault that Gillard became Queen, something that no journo bothers to investigate at all.

That is his fault, not Gillard's, or ours, as voters. His alone.

Are voters upset now?

Well, they have no one to blame but themselves, they created this situation.

I doubt whether voters ever 'get it right' anyway, they just vote as individuals and don't care about much beyond themselves, as an observation after 20 years of HTV activities tolerating abusive w-ankers and total tosspots who don't even know what the election is, state, federal or council.

But then , I'm a voter too, so what would I know, except of course, that I always get it right?
Posted by The Blue Cross, Friday, 24 February 2012 8:30:54 PM
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*People, voters, public, want one candidate Caucus another.*

Well Belly, I remind you that the American people voted twice for
George Bush and his administration went on to be largely responsible
for the GFC.

The Russian people voted for the drunkard Boris Yeltsin and he gave
away most of their assets to the Oligarchs, who are now living it up.

Sometimes I think we should do whats best for the country, not who
is best at kissing babies. Rudd was a failure as a team leader,
that is why his work mates turfed him out.

But if you think that Australians should learn the hard way, just
like the Americans and Russians did, well so be it. As they say, people
need pain to learn. Clearly many Australians need a bit more pain.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 24 February 2012 10:54:25 PM
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It will take a couple of posts but needs saying.
Kevin Rudd needed to change.
But he did not need to be thrown out, he was not warned/council ed just ambushed.
I think right now, with Shorten not standing only he can reduce Labors loss, maybe win.
Kevin, I, Lexi, know reform must take place.
Lets look at Gillard then Crean, a Cretin if ever there was one.
Gillard with a leftist base, until it abandoned her, linked herself with Mark Latham, and Simon Crean.
Not every one has sat in a room,invited, to hear Gillard address Labor foot soldiers, I have, pre Kevin 07.
She, in my opinion, is power hungry and has no intention, ever,of following other than her plan.
She rewards suck holes, of little or no worth.
Hence, Fitzgibbon, Chief Government whip, Labors Pyne, an upper class twit prone to childishness.
Remember the man, and his fathers links to China, free travel accommodation more.
Simon Crean, gained power from his union back ground and links to both Gillard and Latham.
Never confuse this man with his great father, Simple Simon is not his shadow.
A question must be asked here.
How many fathers passed ALP seats to sons,as unworthy as Crean and Fitzgibbon?
How many Unionists, no not the truly brilliant Shorten/Swan/Combet, and others, get rewarded with seats in Parliament?
Thomson if conservative would be howled out of Parliament, by Labor!
Under that tree of knowledge, in dark coal mine lock outs,the battles for 40 hour week then 36.
What was the date, the very day, Labors leaders first said.
We will tell voters what they want?
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 25 February 2012 3:41:03 AM
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