Blue Cross you are so obviously a labor supporter. Your suggestion that the libs should have that Rudd clone, Turnbull as leader says it all. You like his feel for the middle, which is exactly what is wrong with labor. You could have another slime ball in the job.

No idea of doing the right/best thing, just what will get him elected. The man was to stupid to not have seen through the global warming fraud, or could he perhaps see dollars for investment bankers in the thing. Which ever, he is not to be trusted.

We would have another no principle prime minister, just like Rudd & Julia, giving us what we probably deserve for electing such rubbish in the first place.

If you want Turnbull, go draft him. He could be Labor leader by Monday. It would be his only chance to be PM, sensible people saw him for what he is, & got rid of him.

*Kevin 07 or Gillard is Black Caviar vs a donkey.*

Belly me old mate, methinks that you have this one very wrong,
but time will tell.

Rudd was ditched for a reason. One man cannot run a Govt and his
running of it had become completely disfunctional. So even if
he should win against Gillard, he won't be able to run an effective
Govt. Sadly your own party is destroying itself and handing
Abbott the whole thing on a plate.

What you have now in Rudd, is a very bitter man, bent on revenge.
Australia, all of us are paying a price for that. Now he might
impress little old ladies as he kisses babies, but that is not
what we need from a leader of the country. We need somebody who
can lead a team.

Rudd failed as a leader and those working with him most closely
could see it, that is why they voted him out for good reasons at
the time. Ignore that at your peril.

Sorry 'been, old chap. I am not an ALPer at all.

I was, until Beazley led the mob, and I resigned.

Neither am I a middle roader, but I am trying to see things from that perspective, and I do believe that most of our fellow citizens are very much in the middle, not on the wings, like you, Belly, myself and others here.

Rudd and Gillard lack any signs of humanity. Abbott sounds like a wind-up gasbag, a hotair merchant of no value whatsoever, leaving Turnbull and even, maybe, but for the fact he's in the Seante, Arthur Sinodinous.

Hasbeen,

Turnbull lost by one vote as I recall - not exactly a resounding rejection by the party room.

Why do you think he's stuck around if not to wait his opportunity for a go at the Prime Ministership?

Sorry mate, I think you'll find he's Liberal leader again, sooner rather than later.

I want Labor to self destruct so a new Libertarian Party can rise from their ashes.They have not represented the workers or the middle class for many decades.We can see all their dirty washing been laid bare now with their own survival being paramount to the prosperity of the entire country.

Let them self destruct,they deserve it and all the pain and suffering they've inflicted on good decent hard working people is now coming back to bite them.Look in the mirror Labor and see the "Conga Line of suck holes" that you've become.

Poirot,

I agree with you about Turnbull. He once tendered his resignation but then withdrew it and there can only be one reason for that.