Lexi,
When the Libs, under kennett, came to power in Vic the state was bankrupt because of irresponsible spending by Labor previously. Was not there a Premier by the name of Kirmer who, like Gillard and Rudd, was a disaster.

Kennett did the only thing possible to get Vic back on track and that meant tight budget control, and selling assetts to pay for the Labor debt.

Lexi I am sure you know, a few posters here, while in all probability good people know nothing.
Gillard has no way back, Tuesday, if she wins Labor and her are lost, defeated.
No way round this.
A future leader is emerging, Anthony Albanese is talking in the back ground
I have always admired him, never more than today.
I would remind voters who will not vote Labor after Gillard wins, to remember this.
Greens are not the answer, TBC will give me heaps but they prosper only on Labors lost numbers.
If Gillard is returned, if it costs me my history as a proud unionist, I charge those voting for her/removing Rudd, as the new DLP.
A group who both betrayed the ALP and kept conservatives in power.

Hang on Belly. A week ago you were spruiking for Shorten.

You are not very loyal to Billyboyo.

There you go Lexi, more of the same.
Show me your pink batts.

I am still waiting for Belly to define to me what exactly the factions
are and how they line up. Rudd appears to be battling the two
combined factions, which I suspect makes Gillard unbeatable.
Is it true that Rudd does not belong to either faction ?

Still, I don't have an accurate idea of what is going on in the ALP.
That makes it hard to vote for them.

My thoughts are that Julia will win the battle, but loose the war.

What I mean is if she wins, there will most likely be a vote of no confidence, or at least there should be.

Perhaps the ind's will see this as a LIFE LINE so they may save what little credibility they still have.

Alternatively, if Julia retains her job, against the wishes of the people and, they continue to support her, then they are tarnished. No doubt about it.

TBC let us be honest, you misquote me.
I say Bill Shorten is the man, but right now we should watch this unfolding tragic crippling of my party.
Bill is, without doubt a genius.
He how ever was a big part of the knifing.
And continues to support Gillard.
As events unfold, Gillard backers have behaved awfully, not in the party's interests.
And got it wrong in removing Rudd.
Australia wants him back, I , unlike my party's Caucus, think giving the people what THEY want, is our mission.
After Gillard wins, IF she wins, we are dead meat.
Greens are vitally interested in the out come ,as Brown said, and you and I know, all their growth comes from Labors loss.
Vultures who feed on others ,who are without a Chance of ever being other than that.
They pick and peck at Labor, and all anti conservative folk.