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Does Julia deserve to survive?

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Australia wants him back,
Belly,
Are you saying all Australians are hangers-on ? I'm pretty confident that there are still plenty of decent people out there. Hopefully more now than at the last election.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 25 February 2012 4:20:28 PM
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*And got it wrong in removing Rudd.*

You still don't get it, Belly. The people who were closest to Rudd,
worked with Rudd, worked for Rudd, could no longer do so, as he
was losing the plot. Listen to the truth, which is coming out now.

One man does not make a Govt. Govt means teamwork. By supporting
Rudd now, you are in fact part of the reason why your own party
is being dragged down. Rudd had his chance and he failed miserably.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 25 February 2012 4:37:06 PM
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The essential difference between a democratic style of government and a republican style is that in a democracy, representatives are obliged to do as the majority of their constituents direct, regardless of their own feelings, whereas in a republican style, representatives have considerably more self determination. They are elected to make their own decisions, according to what they believe is the best for their constituents (or themselves?).
We already follow the republican model, obviously. It will be interesting to see which way the frogs jump on Monday.
Sadly, the best boss is quite often the one least liked by his immediate subordinates.
Posted by Grim, Saturday, 25 February 2012 7:15:33 PM
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There's an awful lot of misinformation going around
currently about how "difficult," Rudd was to work with.
However the facts are different to this rhetoric.
And people who really worked with him deny all this
rubbish that's currently being spread. Things did get
achieved under Mr Rudd - and they couldn't have been
accomplished without team effort and consultations.
He did not do things all by himself. And seeing us
through the global financial crisis was no small feat.

However, be that as it may - we'll have to wait and see
what develops after Monday's spill. Whether the Labor Party
can unite under whatever leader it chooses remains to be seen.
One can only hope that whatever the outcome in the leadership -
set policies will be achieved with positive outcomes. It's
still a while to the next election - and with continued
policy achievements - voters can still be swayed in seeing
which party can best deliver outcomes that are for the good
of the country - and not just a small elite minority.

I wish the Party success. It has to get over its major current
hiccup - and get on with doing what it does best - governing
the country for all our sakes.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 25 February 2012 9:16:28 PM
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I think the labour supporters are worrying unnecessarily as after it
all blows over they will reunite, bury a few hatchets and get on with it.
Then they will say how they are all good boys & girls together.

That is what politics is all about, and they have no alternative.
Someone this week said that there are no friends in politics, or
rather he did not have any friends in politics.

The only worry I have is that they might cover up misdemeanors of
members to save the government. That is in fact illegal if it could be
shown that they knew and either by action or the omission of action
interfered with an investigation.

It is cause for investigation anyway.
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 25 February 2012 11:06:46 PM
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I am content with my own views yabby, and mate in fact nothing else will do for me.
I take all views on board, except Individuals,even he devalues them.
Rudd, immensely popular with voters, in comparison to Gillard.
More liked within the party and Union movement, so in a two horse race?
Party rank and file public and workers want him.
How will Labor recover?
Can they recover A Gillard win says no.
It says all the above voted to__ give away to others their right to be heard.
Flog me claim disloyalty, but know, my party is not private property of power brokers.
Would you yabby have me use that lie, that word the hobbles both my movements SOLIDARITY?
A word used to sweep truth under the carpet.
To stop fixing problems.
Used here to reinstall a woman who can only self destruct after a win.
NSW a nightmare had its roots in power brokers /faceless men, my party needs reform, it needs Kevin Rudd, or the third candidate Bill Shorten, not another Latham/Gillard plant Simon Cretin.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 26 February 2012 6:54:46 AM
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