Banjo,
Reality fix.
Even after the eminently sensible use of debt to minimise the effect of the GFC on Australians, Australia has almost the lowest public debt of any developed country in the western world.
Double it and we would still have one of the lowest debt levels.
Sorry to put facts in the way of your theory, but the numbers are what they are, hyperbole notwithstanding.
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

Bango, the borrowings have been discussed.
Unless you can get a breakdown of who owes what, you can not judge.
The govt; borrows money on behalf of mining and other businesses that need money to expand. The govt is guarantor. This money is eventually paid back in due course.
The treasury is comfortable with foreign debt, and so should you be.

After 4 years of financial mismanagement and policy incompetence by Labor, that the economy is in relatively good shape has more to do with the sterling condition labor inherited it.

Hardly anything Labor has touched has not been a stuff up from the fair work act, to health, to border protection, to the school hall rip off, the list goes on. It is no wonder the coalition is by far the country's preferred economic managers.

Anton and 579 what an interesting view point you both have.

Now let me get this right, you say that what is going on is not effecting labor's governing.
So, considering most of the stuff ups, and there have been many, were committed while government was not distracted by their infighting, how on earth could they have got things so wrong, especially if they are so clever as you say.

As I say, they are incompitent.

My second point is, you say that we are I great shape.

So, let's go back four five years ago, from where we started, to where we ar today, then apply more of the same reckless mismanagement.

Where do you think we might be then.

As I say, what's in the past is history, but what's in the future, and how it's handles can be life changing.

This is why, like it or not, labor are going to get flogged here in QLD and federally, unless of cause they come up with some miracle.

Now ask yourself not whether the libs have what it takes, but whether labor deserve another chance and, whether we are willing to take that risk.

We will judge when the noalition put up some policies, until then stay calm.
Polls mean nothing until we have policies.
Qld is a basket case and always was, to many Joe years.

215 bills passed, an all time record.
9112 agreements reached by FWA last year.
Jobs and economic growth top priority.
Major reform of new economy.
Greatest transformation in history.
66% support for the NBN
Digital economy
5.1% unemployment best in nations history.

I believe to the contrary *Pork belly* that it is rather you that have the problem. The reason that I say that is as follows:

1. You claimed over and over that I have been writing under multiple aliases, and consistent with your other baseless and fanciful interpretations, you have been unable to substantiate this. The reason of course that you are unable to do evidence this is that it is factually incorrect. But akin to a religious fanatic, you cling desperately to your false and delusional beliefs.

2. Your writing is often difficult to understand, barely coherent and clearly broken Australian english. I do not judge you adversely for that however. I am a rather skilled communicator who is used to communicating with ESL learners and have always valued that which people are trying to convey, above and beyond the way in which they say it. However, as I cannot recall you ever substantiating any of your claims in a generally accepted manner, it is difficult to accept without criticism some of what I consider to be your more outlandish assertions.

3. You claim that I have insulted *RehcTub* though I cannot see how. Rather, I am supportive of a number of his views, and verily at an earlier time in my life was a "young turk liberal" at heart, but have departed from some of those ideals in the moral/social/ethical dimensions. Based on his response, I do not believe that he interpreted my comments as an insult, but consider that your misinterpretation is likely to be a combination of fervent delusional wannabe belief and basic language skills. Keep at it though as places like this certainly can assist in sharpening your skills.

4. To detain children indefinitely without charge or trial in circumstances medically evidenced to promote mental illness constitutes child abuse in my book and the perpetrators consequently are child abusers in my view, worthy of contempt of the highest order and that extends to those individuals perhaps like yourself *Pork Belly* and some catholics and others who seek to hide the truth of this.