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Gillard should sack Rudd: immediately

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and this is the honest and open Government Windsor and Oakshott betrayed their electorates for. You reap what you sow.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 19 February 2012 10:28:50 PM
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Rudd's game playing clearly alludes to Samuel Taylor Coleridge's poem The Rime of the Ancient Mariner.In the poem, an albatross starts to follow a ship — however - being followed by an albatross was generally considered an omen of good luck. However, the mariner shoots the albatross with a crossbow, which is regarded as an act that will curse the ship (which indeed suffers terrible mishaps). To punish him, his companions induce him to wear the dead albatross around his neck indefinitely. Hanging around the neck of Gillard is not string of pearls but a political albatross:

"And some in dreams assured were
Of the Spirit that plagued us so;
Nine fathom deep he had followed us
From the land of mist and snow.

And every tongue, through utter drought,
Was withered at the root;
We could not speak, no more than if
We had been choked with soot.

Ah! well-a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the Albatross
About my neck was hung."
Posted by Rainier, Sunday, 19 February 2012 10:45:30 PM
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Well its a shame to see labor destroying itself like this, but they
are doing it all themselves, so can't even blame the liberals.

The thing is, the challenge that Gillard took on in the first
place, was a bit like herding cats, so was bound to fail
eventually.
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 19 February 2012 11:24:32 PM
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Brilliant, Rainier !

And your first three-quarters was close to the mark, Arjay :)

You would think that any political party worth its salt would have some sort of mentor, or even a devil's advocate, or - who was that guy who used to whisper in (I think) the Roman emperor's ear, 'You are mortal' ?

Or at least somebody to give a compulsory Power-Point presentation on the subject of 'Hubris' for all new MPs ? A bit late now, I suppose.

Australia's economy has changed rapidly since the fifties, and the entire class structure with it. So, as Yabby implies, is this the end of the old Labor Party ? Will it still exist in 2020 ? Or will the Coalition seize the middle ground for the next generation ?
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 20 February 2012 12:01:41 AM
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In watching that video, old news two or three years old.
I see what we may well see if we watched many people in what should have been a private moment.
Why was it filmed, how was it done, in side his office?
Gillard may have had nothing to do with it.
It could have been a private phone film.
Sack Rudd, it is his detractors, not him that highlight this issue.
And a media/opposition who farm headlines and discontent within the Government.
Gillard has been hit with feathers , nothing of substance by both.
She however, should look to her puppets Crean lead, for putting her failures on display.
She must not sack Rudd.
But her self, if she sacked Rudd she would, as is the case with her any one but Rudd followers, do harm to Labor.
Watch for Shorten, a chance exists for a new start.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 20 February 2012 6:01:55 AM
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Ms Gillard should resign.

Her stated reasons for usurping the leadership were:

<<I asked my colleagues to make a leadership change.
A change because I believed that a good Government was losing its way.>>

The government is still lost:
--She introduced a (potentially industry destroying) carbon tax on the assumption the rest of the world would follow suit-- it has not, and is not likely to do so in the near future.
--She backtracked on a commitment not to unwind the medicare rebate,then tried to sell what is a blatant revenue grad as a equity measure.
--She reneged on an agreement with Andrew Wilke to regulate gambling when she deemed she no longer needed his vote.

When she back-stabbed Kevin Rudd she committed to:
<<I want to make firstly a commitment that I will lead a strong and responsible Government that will take control of our future>>
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/gillard-promises-to-lead-with-humility/story-e6frea6u-1225883822014

She has failed to deliver.

If Kevin Rudd is damned for micromanaging, Gillard is double damned for not managing at all.
--She did not know that her staffers were preparing her acceptance speech a month in advance.
--She did not know her staffers were revving up the Tent Embassy protesters.
--She did not know that the Malaysian Solution was full of holes.

Leading up to the assassination she used polling to undermine Kevin Rudd:
<<In the days before challenging Kevin Rudd for the prime ministership, Julia Gillard personally handed to her Labor colleagues copies of secret internal polling designed to undermine his leadership.Labor MPs told Fairfax that Ms Gillard used the polling as part of an effort to persuade them to support her for the prime>>
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/gillard-used-polling-to-trigger-coup-20120214-1t49l.html

The same polling today shows the party is just as unpopular and her rating is well below that of Kevin Rudd’s.

As a matter of principle she should resign.

As some of her supporters were wont to shout in the lead up the last election: "You go girl!" . Ms Gillard, you go girl -- and now, please!
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 20 February 2012 9:21:04 AM
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