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Posted by individual, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 6:31:58 AM
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Dear runner,
I asked earlier "Do you think the privateering thieves who strip money from projects designed to address aboriginal disadvantage should be jailed?" and I didn't get an answer. I will be more specific. I had heard less than half of the money directed toward aboriginal disadvantage actually gets to the coal face but some of your lot can get even greedier. Take the Christian charity Many Rivers Micro Finance run by former Hillsong CEO Leigh Colemen. Of the over 1.3 million dollars it had given to it to provide micro finance to indigenous individuals to give them a chance of breaking out of the cycle of disadvantage only $300,000 was ever offered for loans. The rest was syphoned up by some very greedy snouts. In his defense Colemen said it cost $250,000 to put a worker into the field. I guarantee the one that they did employ was paid under $60,000. What a scam some of these characters are though he probably learnt from the best. These are the types I want to see behind bars now. They, in my opinion, are the true parasites of the 'Aboriginal Industry' and they need to see some swift justice. Don't you agree? http://www.news.com.au/national/ex-hillsong-executive-leigh-coleman-and-charity-many-rivers-microfinance-under-investigation/story-e6frfkvr-1226116537222 This is rife. Posted by csteele, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:18:28 PM
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csteele
should this 'charity ' be guilty of fraud or mismanagement they should be held accountable like any other organisation. I am not sure why you cherry picked this organisation seen billions have been wasted with nothing to show over the last few decades. You sound like those who constantly refers to the Catholic church about their child abuse problems. You forget that their are numerous other organisations and people just as guilty. Why are you not focusing on where most of the money went? Have you ever visited aboriginal communities or are you just finding bits of information that you feel supports your dogma? Wherever their is Government funding especially under Labour you find massive waste. What this has to do with the culture that seems to endorse 10 year old kids fighting with machettes seems to have escaped me. Do you know how much land money is paid by mining companies to aboriginal families and how much is peed against the wall? Posted by runner, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:38:28 PM
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"Runner didn't god make all people equal." - No, He didn't, and indeed no two people are equal. Why should they? Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 9 February 2012 7:35:56 AM
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Dear runner,
Firstly you must refrain from continually repeating the lie/libel that the were 10 year old kids running around with machetes. The closest report I have read on the incident talks about children, some as young as eleven carrying weapons which in their case could simply have been a stick. The media can stretch the truth all by themselves and it does neither you nor you professed faith any credit to be engaged in this sort of behavior. To the question of my cherry picking, look to the mote in thy own eye brother. There are pub brawls and violent interfamily feuds occurring in Australia every week. Yet you have cherry picked these two and demanded the "Aboriginal community take responsibility for their disgusting behavior". Well I can tell you I find the behavior of of Mr Coleman and the other fundamentalist Christians in his organization to be disgusting. On the face of it they are rorting all Australian tax payers and the Aboriginal members they were charged with distributing assistance funds to. Are you prepared as a fundamentalist Christian to apologize to the rest of us for their actions? If not your words are like the empty clanging of cymbals. Posted by csteele, Thursday, 9 February 2012 9:49:40 AM
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csteele
'Firstly you must refrain from continually repeating the lie/libel that the were 10 year old kids running around with machetes' First you must get your head out of the sand and visit Regional centres in QLD, NSW and WA where aboriginal kids at much younger than 10 have been caught up in stealing cars, rock throwing and general violence. Your knit picking of one fact from one incidence demonstrates how blind you are to indigeneous issues. The problem does not go away csteele because you are in denial. Secondly your notion that I apologise for something I know little or nothing about is ludicrous. Some Aboriginal leaders however condone violence and rebellion against the wider community as demonstrated on Australia day. Parents and relaqtives are know to send young kids to do housebreaks for grog money knowing they will be let off. Posted by runner, Thursday, 9 February 2012 2:22:39 PM
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Suzeonline,
There is only one answer, instill discipline ! No if's n'buts, full Stop !
Bring back the slap !
Introduce Non-military National Service.
Be tougher at sentencing on serious offences.
Do that & you'll have an improved society in two years.