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Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 10 February 2012 11:25:40 AM
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From a loudmouth to a has-been :)
: on the other hand, Indigenous women are participating in university education to a much higher degree than one would expect - commencing courses in 2010 at about 92 % of the rate of non-Indigenous men, and 65 % of the rate of non-Indigenous women. Taking that last statistic as some sort of surrogate, i.e. that Indigenous women are commencing studies at the highest levels, in a fairly well-educated country, at two-thirds of the rate of non-Indigenous women - one could tentatively suggest that the Indigenous female welfare-dependent population is about a third of the entire Indigenous female population. And declining. So the task is to open up pathways - no matter how difficult and tortuous the journey may be - for the remainder of the Indigenous population, especially for the men. The easy part, to attract the most desperate and motivated of the Indigenous population into higher education pathways to future employment opportunities, has been achieved, maybe for twenty years now, and especially over the past five or six years. The big job now is for schools and parents to meet their responsibilities towards Indigenous children, and - in the event that this doesn't happen - for universities and TAFE colleges to devise publicity, recruitment, preparation and support programs which are appropriate for people at different stages of their educational journey. By definition, such pathways must be extended to the most remote communities and to the least skilled young people. The last thing should be to view school education for Indigenous children as being in one box, and higher education for Indigenous people as being in another box. But that is how it will probably pan out in the current bureaucratic environment. The bottom line for everybody in society, including Indigenous people, is that you have to contribute at least as much as you take out. History can't get you off the hook. Reconciliation starts with the truth, the whole truth. Closing the Gap requires effort on all sides, if we are serious about it. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 10 February 2012 12:18:11 PM
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refreshing to see that those with experience aren't in denial of the issues. The one person work and the rest blow the money is something I have seen many times over. Almost always that person gives up on the idea of doing things the white (or African, or PNG, or Middle Eastern) way. Could not disagree with a word of the last posts.
Posted by runner, Friday, 10 February 2012 4:57:52 PM
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runner,
"Almost always that person gives up on the idea of doing things the white (or African, or PNG, or Middle Eastern) way." But I thought your impression of "the Middle Eastern way" was that it was uncivilised, etc. etc.. http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4952#132619 Posted by Poirot, Friday, 10 February 2012 7:29:48 PM
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Poirot
U seem to deliberately miss the point that one should act civilised and not use ones ethnicity as an excuse. If you think the Muslim brotherhood are civilised than many would disagree including me. Posted by runner, Friday, 10 February 2012 8:21:24 PM
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runner,
It was your pronouncement that the Muslim Brotherhood will be running the show - not mine. Your comment on that thread was a broad generalisation, seeming to encompass the general population,...."uncivilised people", if you don't mind. Or is it only Christians from the Middle-East who are civilised? Posted by Poirot, Friday, 10 February 2012 8:37:30 PM
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Yes the families should do more.
Many years ago, in the days of pay packets, we had a young girl working for us. Nice kid, good worker, quite pretty, with a lovely dark complexion, the colour many girls spent hours on the beach, trying to acquire. A girl you'd be proud of, if she were your daughter.
I saw a bunch of young blokes hanging around outside sometimes, but I only realised it was only on pay day, when I saw them taking her pay packet off her one day. They were her uncles. It was only then that I learned she was of aboriginal extraction.
Without making it obvious, we changed to pay in bank, & she kept at least more of her money.
I was really sorry to see her pushing a pram a couple of years later, a single mother on welfare. I had hoped she'd make it, but it must be hard when your family don't stop your "uncles" ripping you off.