OUG! an extraordinary post, true and it got to depths and things we may not be free to talk about here.
I am a simple bloke, not driven by ego, or cares what others think of me.
Unless they think I let them down.
So proud to be me, told my views made make *High Maintenance* in my life's love Union/Party I say always, what I think.
I never ever judge a woman on her sex, in fact the best women in my life know, I gave them control in almost every thing in life, but not my right, or did I challenge theirs, to be a man/woman.
We are different, women mature earlier often much faster, men act impulsively, often benefiting from a womans hand.
I suspect OUG, you like me, have seen a side of life it is unlikely Lexi or Suseonline ever did.
No use lying, some men,some females are sub human.
Deep within our mental processes SOME are lacking balance respect, honesty under standing.
The defense put up, a form of *Not Me Mate*, not women just can not be right.
I have seen a woman, dump her CHILDREN by the roadside, three sub 10 years, middle of the night.
60 KLM from any one and drive away.
A fact, not one of us humans can claim ALL are caring.
I know OUG of women who [often it is after a relationship ends] pick a weak second husband.
And control even hit and bash them.
ALL DV is gutless.
All a crime, and all should be treated under law the same way,why different for women??
If it is different then it is a crime against men.

i like to think..i know suzie and lexies souls
and am reasonably sure they..are not of the type..[we are discussing]

they are wise and stong
without a need to hurt/revenge..or whatever
the 'others'..chose to do..[simply cant concieve the insanity]

we are lucky..*they spend some time
raising the bar...of the..[lol].weaker sex*
[certainly..*not any olo's posters]..[male or femail]

but the victims of the insanity..[of any sex]
who experienced it's betrayal
[im guessing..

*we..are more than a few]

and its only because..of that[the strrong]..avoiding
the doing of the vile...those..able to resist..that temptation..
*they cant fully grasp..that of us

hurt by deliberated intention..to make us suffer
be it erant social conditioning/revenge..or just spite...meaness

there are those..
who cant get it right
[so lacking the will..or the word-skills..[or the love]
..refuse to listen..or explain..or reason..[their..haunted by haters]

chosing instead
to fight/hurt strike back blindly/midlessly
at that person..REPRESENTING..the one*..what first hurt them

[or something like that]

its a shame..we cant speak honestly
about the things..we know..

but heck
im a man

and men dont cry
we dont whine..we cant win
we just stand there..and take it on the chin[or the shin]
or the face or the knutts..or in the guts..or just the swift kick in the ring gear

victims..*can/do..use code
but woman..read between the lines

instead of decoding..the code..[oh ode to the code]
its only cause..even most men dont know it..
that the..'others'..dont know it either

who ever said torture works
dont know about the code!

OUG, the "haters" exist everywhere, but they only prosper when there are enablers.

That was the point of my original post: this woman was allowed to vent her spleen on this man unchecked by a crowd of onlookers, to the tune of 20 blows and there was never any suggestion that she should be held accountable, even by Mr Waterstreet, a noted Sydney (left-wing) barrister.

The enablers are "nice", but they look on with approval when one of the girls strikes out. They "would never do anything like that", but they're happy to watch someone else do it, as long as they're of the right gender, of course.

Hypocrites and cowards.

Antiseptic, "The enablers are "nice", but they look on with approval when one of the girls strikes out"

Not sure that it's generally approval, perhaps a quiet "tut, tut", thinking that he probably deserved it but that she could have handled it a bit more discretely. My impression is that most think that women are unlikely to do much real harm so it does not matter too much rather than explicitly approving of the violence.

They try to pretend that support is there when men need it and do what they can to deny claims to the contrary when men voice them. The enablers want to speak up and count when it comes to stopping violence against women but are not so keen to look at the evidence when it does not support what they already believe. Other than a couple of general attacks on CTS there has been pretty much no attempt to refute the stats we've referenced over a lot of years. Mostly either attacks on men for referencing those stats or appeals to figures which are heavily influenced by social perceptions about DV, eg police arrest rates or people claiming to be victims of DV when being admitted to hospital.

Sometimes after a long series of posts claiming that women are much more likely than men to be the victims of all sorts of DV (including emotional abuse) there is a grudging admittance that the numbers are similar then a fall back to serious injury rates.

The enablers are intellectually lazy, they grew up with a picture in their heads of what DV looked like and are not willing to let anything challenge that picture. I grew up with that same picture and it wasn't until I was faced with a lack of support that I started to look into what was wrong with the picture.

R0bert

Anti can you move over?
We may need to find room for this Author on the naughty boys bench
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/blogs/modern-times/really-women-bash-men-20110306-1bjpl.html
I think any one who contributed to this thread would be interested in this link.

R0bert:"it wasn't until I was faced with a lack of support that I started to look into what was wrong with the picture. "

You and me both, brother. From a brief perusal of the popular press commentary I'd say that our experience is fast becoming the "dominant paradigm" for fathers who have to endure a contentious divorce, especially when the mother claims violence exists, regardless of evidenciary support.

Lots of men are coming to realise that feminism is all about having your cake and eating it as well and that has to be paid for by men.

That's what the enablers are achieving, whatever their motivations.