Dear Anti,

I have a great deal more to say on this subject.
However, I prefer not to do so because frankly
it would be a waste of my time - and I am very busy
at the moment. Also although I do enjoy having a
discussion - I don't consider this thread as even coming
close. I shall leave you and Belly to share your opinions
and thoughts. Suse and I will
wisely - go onto another thread. BTW - you and Belly
should not put your interpretations onto what Suse (or
any one else) says. You should actually read the posts -
and try to comprehend what's being said (and why) - and not give
us your version of it.

Cheers.

Lexi, I'm trying to work out what your views are, but they seem to change in every post. Perhaps you should try to work out what they are for yourself?

Anti such is the nature of male/female relation ships
Lexi, a poster I admire,tells us not to do as she does.
Not to take her words and read other things, but she does that with us.
Maybe we are wrong, it may best be to adopt the standard male response.
Yes dear, our only answer then skip down to the pub and share our views.
I can not remember, did we say something wrong.
They all women bash husbands, all husbands are saints.
Just how did we get in to this.
I know only this,you can not win, such debates may as well be held with the rolling pin as you wash up after making the scones.
Well not me, I would help maybe cook but will to death, be amused by those insisting black is white.
No Woman ever bashed any man ok?
Every woman is good every man not ok
yes dear!
Just taking the dog for a short walk dear.[ pubs not that far away]

Not wanting to stir this pot at all, I can't help but mention the item in todays news about the women who threw her 8 mth old dog out a 15th story window.

I know it's not manly , but I love my dog, because my dog loves me despite all my shortcomings. My family and I share our love for each other. All achieved without feminist theorem.

Our dog decides who he likes and doesn't like, he approaches unknown males with one eye cocked, he approaches unknown females with his unequivocal loving side on display.

The dog in question (in the news) may have been expected to serve his mistresses ego, failed, and got thrown out the window as a result. Maybe it was a demonstration of her voracity in the the argument she was having, or maybe female-dom is not that perfect after all. Let's see what happens in sentencing.

Whilst my dog seems to understand the difference between males and females, we it seems don't, as we try to produce ( from our own pre-percepetions), more men like women and more women like men, for no apparent useful purpose.

Frankly I don't understand why we are even bothering with this pastime. By all means and absolutely, let both genders respect each other, understanding and appreciating their respective differences, and let nature take it's course, because it will in the end anyway.

Thinker 2 I saw the story, in fact could post ten times a day such story's.
But it is not worth while and just maybe unfair.
I can not spell the name of that first man whole looked at the human psychology.
But even here, in both sex's, the differences and preconceived ideas we have can be seen.
I could not live with out women, but can not avoid the differences, that post above is true.
It is how, most men, after a while,regard confrontation with the woman in their life.
We men DO put women on a pedestal.
For an increasing number women want and expect it.
But in increasing numbers SOME want total control too.
SOME develop that wish to belief they can hit men, and that men can not hit back, because you must take but not give punishment from a woman.
I offer these differences in defense of my view not all females are the same.
SOME Muslim women walk behind a husband like slaves, even considering hitting him would bring death.
SOME Indian women still are burnt to death ,yes it still takes place, with dead husbands.
Prisons, world wide, have women who killed, no one can claim ,for any sex, sainthood.

someone quoted..""Lexi:"Today
a person's individual human qualities rather
than their biological sex..should be the primary measure of that
person's worth and achievement."""

i cant read that..without knowing
lexie has acceptred to be silenced
just like suzie before her

is this because of biological sexism
or because our vairiant opinion's differ
according to our current sex status[sexual stasis]

i like mr bell..love that opposing sex
when we are acting in harmony..

but having seen the face of pure evil
over-lay that face..of pure lust..

that overlays..all the other things
inherantly sexual..relitivisms

[sister..wife/mother/lover...other
unmentionable fun..others..according to sexual bent]

anyhow i feel we are each lost
in our sexualised prejudgments

if only everything
that looked good
was all good

if only love
was really about living in love
not dying from hate..[or love...'of hate']

i dont know its all too deep
for me

i would beg the beloved others to return
to stand up like a man[not erect]..to return and take it like a man

cause if its only us men
i just KNOW..we will get it all wrong

who has nuthing
has everything..to gain

thus he who has
has nuthin except everything..left
to loose...as we ourselves must chose..[according to your bent]

ya notice how much what we got
depends on who is on top..[t.o.p]

if i need to explain
your not imaginative enough
2b on top...[heck im not just a row-bot]

im not woeman..ignore my gutteral roar
if im not giving you enough touch
stop touching me too hard

push me once..shame on you
push me more..same shame on me
i knew it was cummin..but thought it wernt that important

at the time
but now in hindsight
its all about power..and who feels powerless

the diss-empowerd..got nuthin left to loose
stikeout on your own..before you stike back

leave
run away
its what girls do
men just take it like a man

ben dover