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200 more asylum seekers dead. Is Labor to blame?
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Posted by Banjo, Monday, 19 December 2011 11:49:25 AM
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I did actually, but was affraid of being suspended :>
"I can't believe the simplicity of this! Why didn't you think of this before the Christmas parliamentary recess bonmot?" Tend to agree Dan: "the most effective place to determine refugee status, would be Indonesia" And I'm sure the Guvs (OZ & Indo) are working behind the scenes to try and pull it off. Who'd want to be a diplomat - well, except for Rudd :) Wasn't it Howard who "excised" Christmas Island anyway? "Give Christmas Island back to the Indonesians to whom it belongs! Christmas Island is correctly part of the Indonesian archipelago. Why not simply abandon the nightmare as a free Christmas gift to Indonesia? and term the move an “organised” retreat!" I wondered about those pesky Taswegians too Dan and you may have a point but ... it's those snappy sleepy sheeps across the Tasman that gives me the heebie-jeebies, most! Posted by bonmot, Monday, 19 December 2011 11:51:19 AM
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Hey, here's something novel:
Government and Opposition sort it without playing games! Oh, sorry ... I forgot :( Posted by bonmot, Monday, 19 December 2011 11:53:38 AM
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Hi Banjo,
You may be right, but I have a question. If the refugee boat people are the commercial queue jumpers that you say they are, then how is it that in the end, most of them are found by heh courts to be genuine refugees, according to Australian law. If, as you seem to be asserting, they are not genuine refugees, then how is that so many are found to be and end up becoming citizens? Just askin' Anthony http://www.observationpoint.com.au Posted by Anthonyve, Monday, 19 December 2011 11:59:53 AM
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SM:
...# The pacific solution where people were transferred from Xmas Island to Nauru has been stopped, but the direct interception and direct transfer to Nauru is not subject to the Australian courts and thus unaffected by the high court decision...# I beg to differ SM. This action would be challenged now by by Bob and Co. in defense of laws applicable to the "High Seas". The Navy could possibly get away with the diversion, by waving a few thousand dollars in front of the boat of illegals, and encourage them to change course to Nauru! ...Naturally the offer would be challenged by the boat people, and the "anti" would be upped to the millions for the inducement; but I think it would be cheaper to pay Lawyers back home to find another way!! Dan... Posted by diver dan, Monday, 19 December 2011 12:00:56 PM
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Diver,
There are Aussie residents living on Christmas Island, don't abandon them. Better to set up a illegals centre on MacQuarie Island, to give them an idea of the variety of our climate. Cool fresh breezes there to clear the head. Could also make them wait 10 years like the poor buggers in Africa. No visa, no PR and no relos brought in, there is lots of disincentives we can impose. No legal aid for starters, that is for citizens. Posted by Banjo, Monday, 19 December 2011 12:03:06 PM
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You obviously do not understand why most Aussies are against the invasion of these illegals.
They are con merchants, shonksters, who get here by buying their way, with false papers and bribery. They pay far more than the air fare to jump the back fence with the object of deceiving our officials. Knowing they will get permanent residence and the ability to bring out the remainder of their families.
In short, we are being conned and that is the reason they are not liked.
Like most Aussies, my forebears, and myself, worked bloody hard to build this and protect this country and we expect to hand on the hard won benefits to our decendants, and those that come here on our invitation. Not just let some arrogant free loaders come here and take what they want. Make no mistake, these gate crashers are sponging off us, reducing the heritage we can pass on to Aussie Kids.
Understand this and that we expect our governments to stop the invasion and control our borders. This government has failed completely and will pay the penalty.