Come on Bazz! never start a post with the words we do not understand when your next sentence proves it is you who do not.
Labor before the chairman thing knew it could NOT PASS THE LOWER HOUSE.
It with drew rather than be defeated.
Now it can, and will.
HOW can you ignore, GREENS CAN BE CRUSHED.
Majority get its wishes, IF CONSERVATIVES VOTE that way.
Gentlemen and Lady's, we are getting emotional again.
I challenge SHADOW MINISTER,Sir you twice spoke untruths here.
Was it by intent? or do you know no better?
You said the MALAYSIAN SOLUTION, had cut boat people the 250 a month.
You do know, don't you? it was never ever even started? high court and your mob never let it.
2008?
Are we going to be fair dinkum, HIGHT COURT changed every thing.
Verbal combat using things like that SM a symptom of what?
Leave it to others to find the raw verbal inexactitude in your post.

Belly,

Unless my memory is fading, Chris Bowen on announcing the Malaysian solution stated categorically that it would apply to everyone landing after that date while the final draft was expected within a couple of weeks. For all intents and purposes, the Malaysian solution started then, and while slowing the boats failed to stop them.

Secondly while claiming that I am lying about the possibility of using Nauru by diverting the boats directly, you have failed my challenge to put up even a smidgeon of supporting evidence.

I take great care not to state things I cannot support, and if you challenge me, you need to put up more than invective.

Athonyve I saw great promise in you after your first few posts.
But must, just must, be on the other side this time.
This government my government, has got it wrong.
Too late to cry, or change the past.
I warned you about this subject.
Like sleeping on a bull ants nest under a disturbed hornets one.
Rational debate is gone, blue faced red necked screaming takes its place.

But this is true, Labor must NEVER adopt policy's only the very few want.
Surely as we see right now, the softer approach only invites more to attempt to come.
Politics has never been about other than doing things the voters want, or being tossed out, for long periods.
The blue faced rage seen here, ignores fact.
Labor, pushed and dragged to its new position, wants just what conservatives want.
What most of Australia wants.
OF SHORE PROCESSING [understood your bit SM]
and like it or not, we must not be blinded, Turks are coming and not for other than a better life.
12.000? Mate if we invite them it will be ten times that first year and this country needs to breath and consider its ability to be that big.
Those chanting the anti Labor things here, seem incapable of understanding, at the very least, both party's and the idiot greens hold the blame.
Flogging in Malaysia or drowning?
The flogging will not happen.
Most of this country has rights if minority's rule time after time our system is dead.
Steam roll the greens and mate, please do not condemn the ALP to the other side of the house for decades.
Love conservatives using filth like Latham!

Bazz,

On a ship, they would be subject to maritime law.

Asylum seeker activists are fond of quoting refugees stories --here's one I'll bet they're not keen to repeat.

"Why does Australia not close the border?," said Esmat Adine, a 24 year old Afghan. "Everyone is coming because the border is open. Everyone is going there and they are being accepted.

"If Australia does no want asylum seekers to come to Australia [by boat], it is a better way to close all the borders and THEN NO-ONE WILL COME."
http://www.smh.com.au/world/survivors-tell-why-the-boats-keep-coming-20111219-1p1td.html

And remember all those stories about long arduous journeys over land and sea to make it to Indonesia --well here's how they really get there:

"people-smuggling syndicates ...are funnelling their clients through JAKARTA'S AIRPORT, taking them BY BUS across Java, and packing them on unsafe boats bound for Christmas Island."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/160-asylum-seekers-feared-dead-20111218-1p0v8.html#ixzz1h3ocPORj

Wake-up Australia you're being had.

SPQR, we do not often agree, your last post every word could have been mine.
If you look you will see on this issue I have over and again, said what yabby has said and you.
I will not ever, blame only Labor.
But the bleeding hearts must in the end ask themselves questions.
How much is this costing our country, welfare alone.
Once we get the cash added up and after catching our breath, we can consider what good we could do with half that money, for the country's they flee.
The other half could stay here for us.
Time after time Humanitarians talk of the dreadful circumstances of these folk.
Who got together traveled a very long trip, paid an estimated $600.000 to smugglers.
In the end , staying home in these country's some people have to decide what one of the children should starve to death so one can live.
Those are the refugees we get migrants cashed up ones unwanted ones.