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Seventh boatload of aslyum-seekers in one week - Labor's border protection collapse.

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Disasters like this happened under the Howard government which led to the pacific solution and the boats stopping.

Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 16 December 2011 4:49:40 AM
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Nice use of a quote SM.
However it steps around truth as if it just fell from the southern end of a north bound Bull.
As I have said Labor got it very wrong.
I suspect they wanted to be kinder, but forgot a basic.
It can not be ignored that Basic.
Those folk want the better life Australia offers.
They, unlike most of their country men can pay for the trip.
And another basic.
The trip is a gamble, but making it easier, like on shore processing , equals more arrivals.
AGAIN but understanding it will not change your stand, HIGH COURT rulings, [we should deport those lawyers] is said to have stopped Nehru being used.

Sadly it has not sopped your party from using the issue.
A tasteless and needless avoidance of finding an answer.
History will blame the ALP for giving a win to minority's.
But your side is far worse, it is in the power they hold to fix this issue.
Australia is but a dust rag in the hands of your Negative LEADER.
PS please do not let your kids wed a Lawyer.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 16 December 2011 5:15:19 AM
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The coalition have always supported off shore processing, and offered Juliar a compromise that would have permitted off shore processing in nearly 150 countries. (which was more than her governing partners would do.)

Juliar did not even try and negotiate, she just said NO, even against the advice of her immigration minister. She has a myriad of off shore processing options, but would rather throw the compromise back and try and blame the coalition for less than 100% co operation.

The Australian public is not buying it.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 16 December 2011 10:05:04 AM
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Dear SM,

We are well aware of the disasters that happened
under the Howard Government. That's why he lost
his own electorate and the election. People were
indeed no longer buying what he and his party
were selling. That was also why his successor
Mr Abbott was not able to succeed in forming a
government no matter how hard he tried. And has been
trying, very trying, ever since.

As for what people will be
buying in 2013? Who knows - it's early days yet.
However, a strategy based on complete and total
negativity may have some advantages but it
inevitably suffers in terms of relevance as
decisions are taken, the outcomes are positive, and
the public debate moves on.

As I wrote on another thread - when you think you find
yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause
and reflect. The object of life is not to be on the side
of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the
ranks of the ignorant.
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 16 December 2011 10:31:21 AM
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Lexi truth drives me to only agree in part with that last line.
I agree with the ignorant part.
But think with me, majority's must rule, even if we must educate them.
Constant control by minority's would , in time, believe me, see dictator ships installed.
There lays the greens enemy.
That fact, AUSTRALIANS know how bad Abbott is.
But more of them can put up with him than Gillard.
We will not get traction till she is gone.

Note SM has told us of country's who have not signaled they wish to take ANY BOAT PEOPLE.
Rather cute but not unexpected.
SM,any chance you are John Howard? Abbott's dad, Pynes?
Posted by Belly, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:10:38 AM
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In arriving late but reading what has gone on before - all I can say is you know you are in trouble when even devout followers undermine their preferred political party. This goes for all parties.

Said it before and will say it again. Malaysian 'solution' would have curbed the boats, Naru would have encouraged more. What we have is by far more humane, but encourages even more.
Posted by bonmot, Friday, 16 December 2011 11:26:30 AM
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