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Dear runner,

What was the name of the professor you cited, and what was his field? I doubt that you have had any interest in exmining the evidence.

What evidence is there that the beginning of Genesis is anything other than legend?
Posted by david f, Monday, 12 December 2011 6:27:09 PM
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I might be able to assist, david f and runner…

FACT AND VALUE JUDGEMENT IN SCIENCE, Australian and New Zealand Journal of Surgery, Volume 49, Issue 3, June 1979, Pages: 293–299, M. J. WHITTEN (Department of Genetics. University of Melbourne Parkville. Victoria 3052)

But I'm not prepared to pay the money to see the PDF of the article so I can't check the accuracy of the quote in context – plus considering how much has happened in genetics and biological sciences since 1979. I'd be more interested in what Dr Whitten thought now.

Dr M. J. Whitten was also Chief of the CSIRO's Division of Entomology for 14 years (haven't been able to track down which 14 years, but I think it was about 20 years ago).

I suspect though that runner had read the reference in this year's Bible Believers' Newsletter 689 which reprinted an article by journalist Robert Roma from 1999, entitled "Order out of Chaos" in which he says that he quoted Whitten from "his 1980 Assembly week address".

Strangely, I couldn't find any comments that related to the topic of this thread…
Posted by WmTrevor, Monday, 12 December 2011 10:40:18 PM
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WmTrevor

I suspect strongly if he held to his honest view his prophecy of funding drying up would of well and truely taken place. It is quite ironic that those defending the 'science'of evolution and refuse the junk science of global warming are reaping what they have sown.
Posted by runner, Monday, 12 December 2011 11:02:43 PM
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Dear runner,

I still would like to know what evidence there is for the legend of creation in Genesis. I would also like to know why one should accept the Bible and not the Koran, the Hindu Mahabarata or the Buddhist Tripitaka. They also claim divine inspiration for their sacred books. I think the reality is that all sacred books merely contain legends created by human story tellers.
Posted by david f, Monday, 12 December 2011 11:24:30 PM
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Evolution is real.
The evidence if we wish to look is every place we look.
Not just animals birds and humanity.
But in our thoughts beliefs even actions.
We Evolve.
Christianity, its own teachings and writings, tells of its evolution.
The St James Bible was evolution.
Christianity was undeniably born from the Jewish faith.
What Christian with under standing would not know this is true.
Islam, came clearly from the same book, after the other two.
We see GREATNESS in each of those Holly books.
We see too, such GREATNESS in other books written at that time.
If it had not been for the bigotry of EVERY RELIGION in burning others books, or even others thoughts.
EG the great Library of Alexandria.
We would come closer to under standing, the greatness of humanity in inventing a hope that we are not alone.
In saving us from the dark.
If we, just read, without bias the history's of the three biggest religions.
See how they are one with different story's.
See how they need to confront one another yet are doomed to be like one another.
And if, only, we can look even at the smaller religions, or branches of the big.
That are homes /fronts for some despicable practices.
Child molesting then placing the robes and telling us how to live.
Give me a reason other than bigotry or religion for standing against other humans.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 5:32:15 AM
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What is it about Abbott. In his uni days he was accused of sexually assaulting a political opponent (not Julia). Then accused of being a right wing thug who used sexist tactics to intimidate opponents. At 19 Tony's girlfriend become pregnant claiming he's the father. later proved wrong, nice girlfriend.
Abbott has attended St Aloysisus, St Ignatius, St John's and St Patrick's, is there a trend here? Enough to make a fellow become a priest. Oh, Tony has been to Queen's Collage, that may sway his vote.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 8:15:52 AM
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