Dear Philo,

The pure character of God? He sure isn't a pure character in the Bible. In Joshua he orders genocide. He submits his son in the New Testament to great torture. He wipes almost all life on earth in the flood because he is annoyed with humans. The God of the Bible is a bloody, unreasonable, sadistic monster. Maybe you're referring to some other god who is benevolent.

When I was a child I heard the story of God's command to Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. I asked my father what he would do if he heard a command from God to sacrifice me. Dad said he would see a psychiatrist.

I loved my father, but the God of the Bible is worthy neither of my worship nor my love. I don't know why the humans who invented the God of the Bible made him such a rotter.

david f

amazing how much you hate someone so much you claim not to believe in.You do twist things however. An honest look at your own character shows really how much undeserving of God's love you and I are. You seem to have it the wrong way around.

Dear runner,

I don't hate any non-existent beings. I admit to a great lack of enthusiasm for the Crusades, the Wars of the Reformation, the Inquistion, the genocide of the Indians of the Americas and all the other miseries inflicted on humanity by people who believe in that non-existent being.

I don't expect you to abandon your superstition, but I hope you will accept that other people have a right to believe something different from what you believe and live their own lives.

Banjo hope you enjoy the humble pie.
By now you have heard about every world government agreeing on climate change.
admire your blind defense of doc NO but he is just being him.
Hope his wife has worked out away around his standard answer.
David f we tilt at wind mills.
Always ready to judge based on these fables and set rules of conduct for us all but blind to the truth.
Truth is in just our life times Church's role is decaying.
Original sin, theft?
It highlights at least, the differences Church to church.
Superstition fear control are all part of religion.
And it seems true a need to be at war with every other creed.
Only Islam grows.
One fine day we can set our own standards free of bribery of life eternal or horrible deaths.
For not obeying idols.

Belly,
The homosexual marriage thing may not even get off the ground if the government can see it defeated and few votes in it for them, why bother?

The carbon tax issue is another matter and will cost Labor a large number of votes. This government has committed to half a billion dollars in aid to other countries on carbon tax alone.

No benefit to the world but costly for us. Think what practical uses half a billion could do here in our own backyard. One more for list of Labor stuff ups.

Mate, i will willingly eat crow when it is proven that human induced global warming exists. Your so called scientists predicted that UK kids would not know what snow was by now. Record falls last year and watch this coming winter. Flannery's predictions are a joke.

Abbott confirmed what I thought would be a predictable response. In choosing between breaking an election promise and supporting a conscience vote, or waiting 2 years to the next election Abbott has suggested that the coalition will keep its faith with the voters.

A concept that is obviously alien to Juliar.

Belly,

You and labor should be eating crow. We predicted nothing of substance would come of the conference and The Durban conference came out with the result that everyone agreed to negotiate an agreement.

But what the hell has everyone been doing for 20 years? This is like a scene out of "Yes Minister".

The main parts of this agreement is that no one is going to put pen to paper before 2015, and even in the unlikely event that this happens and we get anything more binding than Kyoto, nothing happens before 2020.

This looks to me like an agreement by everyone to do nothing and postpone any decision for 4 years. This "agreement" is the fig leaf of respectability for abject failure of the conference.