Please get your proportions right, Arjay - Not every thing that is evil and stupid amounts to slavery, otherwise you will run out of names for the next bad blow. What for example are you going to call the latest kidnapping of Mr. Slipper? "Holocaust" perhaps? And having mentioned that atrocity, why are you willing to discount Labor as "Lunatic" - isn't all they do premeditated?

Now you and I know that the government rapes us every day from every conceivable direction, but Labor's reputation as Ludites is very poor - I wish they were indeed true good Ludites, but they only destroy good old proven and stable technology, not the dubious and flimsy latest electronic toys, which they genocidally push school children to get addicted on. You must be aware that they are the same guys who, with their NBN, are now preparing our gas chambers.

noted my power price has just gone from

17.1300 [may 2010]..19.4100..nov 2010..
to 20.6900..[nov 2011]

off peak..11.6660..[aug 2011]
to12.4300..[10 nov 2011]

i use point .23 tons c02
so thats going to be 23$ extra
im self funded retired..[no dicounts no income]

mycurrent bill reads..electicty used..$30.66
plus service to property charge.......$22.51
plus gst...............................$5.32

near half my cost is..govt charges
now add in the c02 tax...more than half my cost is for govt taxes

add in my tobacco tax..
and other forms of other taxes...rates etc

the fact govt has declared war on me
little wonder i search for other solutions

http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=8225&start=70

An interesting case study, Arjay. But are you sure you have your facts properly sorted?

>>I've known Scotty for 8 yrs who runs a tool making business in Sydney<<

Toolmakers are generally skilled craftspeople. From your description - it is a one-person operation that runs multiple computerized machines that are able to run unattended - there seems to be little skill required.

>>Perhaps this was partly due to the purchase of a new machine and running machines longer<<

He purchased a new machine, for "over $ million"? That wouldn't seem to be the wisest decision, under the circumstances. The interest payments on a million bucks would be at least six grand a month. And - generously - depreciating the equipment over ten years, that's another eight grand a month. Not cash, of course, but even so that one new machine is costing his business a cool fifteen thousand a month.

Puts the power bill into the small-change basket, given that he has a number of these machines lying around using up the juice.

I'd strongly suggest he employs a decent accountant, who could advise him against these rash decisions.

Or perhaps you haven't quite got the story straight, Arjay.

Wouldn't be the first time, would it.

I wonder how he has survived so long Arjay.

I gave up manufacturing brass products, for the local market, using similar machines, about 12 years ago.

That was when the cost of just the raw brass feed stock, fed to those machines to make the main components, exceeded the cost of importing the finished product, chrome plated, & assembled, including a couple of custom molded neoprene rubber seals, all assembled & even in a bloody box, with our name on it.

Just how brass, made with our copper, & zinc, can cost so much more here than in Taiwan, or China, I really can't imagine. I admit I have not tried too hard to figure it out, as the answer would probably only upset me. It probably has the hand of Keating in it.

I'd rather go for a few long drives in my sports car, before the bitch gets at my little sport, with even higher petrol prices.

How do you do it OUG. Before my mum went my bills were running at well over $500 a month, & still won't go below $400.

Of course about half of that is pumping water. Turn on a tap, & a pump has to run. Pull the plug, the water goes into a grey water system, required by council of course, which requires a pump to empty it.

Every time I have a drink of water, make a coffee, or wash a shirt, I'll feel that awful womans hand in my pocket. But never mind, I've decided to live long enough to dance on her grave, no matter how long it takes.

Arjay Balance please,, understanding too if possible.
The tax has not been paid yet.
Not a cent
Starts July 2012.
NSW failed ALP government, my party, it reject shop rejects, shop refused to take them.
Put prices up, yep ALP made us pay more than power was worth, yes ALP.
To? make it a better proposition to sell?
Great job, not NSW now has ownership of the polls and wire, well after the coming generator sale.
Sorry, sorry your story will not float, sorry my party got so low, sorry for the thousands who need help to pay those bills.
And mate sorry a party of the workers in its strongest state BETRAYED the poor who sit in cold and dark homes afraid to use power.

Belly, I just wish you & your mates could take control of your party again.

I wish we could get some real people in there, & get rid of all these arts/law graduates that fill the place, on both sides.

Do you think we could ban anyone who has been a "young" anything at uni, it would get rid of a lot of the smarties?

Perhaps we should go for a drive to a secluded fishing spot for a while, that is before they close the rest of those down to fishing, to buy a few green votes.