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Welcome to Labor's CO2 Tax Slavery

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John D welcome.
In Ajay's posts from top to bottom some differences seem to appear.
However in the title,and in that content.
Arjay seems to blame a tax not yet payed, by any one for Scotty's troubles
I fear Scottie may well be looking to be beamed up.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 5:50:20 AM
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Putting aside all the Belly/Pericles BS,we will not have any sort of manufacturing with this CO2 tax.That is the reality.

Scott does not lie and I'm not going to ask for his bill as proof.3 phase machines use a lot of power.I see him daily working alone for many a long hour.You don't compete with the likes of Taiwan on mass produced items unless you cut all overheads out.This carbon tax will be the end of us since no one else outside the shaky Isles is implementing it.These labor criminals must go! Already we hear of more IPCC scandals of coverups and collusion to cook the books in favour of AGW.

The NAB recently comes out in support of an ETS and a carbon tax.Why? Not because of noble notions of saving the planet,but because they can profit from the derivative market scams that are really nebulus.

Either Labor goes or say welcome to real poverty.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 29 November 2011 8:40:59 PM
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What is real poverty. Where i live a housing corp; is procuring fed ;funding to build a stack of affordable housing. The deal is you have to live in the house for five years. The council is involved, and they are looking for low income buyers, if you earn between $ 50,000 and $ 100,000 / year , you are eligible to apply.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 7:08:06 AM
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No-one is suggesting otherwise, Arjay.

>>Scott does not lie...<<

After all, he is not the one posting to this forum. You are. And all that I have pointed out is that your numbers simply don't stack up, the way you have presented them. You chose to illustrate your moan against the carbon tax with his business details, so you bear the responsibility for their accuracy.

Or lack thereof.

But I'm interested in some of the assumptions you appear to make.

>>...we will not have any sort of manufacturing with this CO2 tax... That is the reality.You don't compete with the likes of Taiwan on mass produced items unless you cut all overheads out<<

You haven't mentioned what Scotty manufactures, but we now know that it is some form of mass-produced widget. Is it your view that he should continue to manufacture these widgets here, earning himself $35 an hour and supporting a capital-intensive small business structure, with no hope of survival - let alone expansion - given that his production costs can never compete with China or Taiwan?

It has very little to do with the carbon tax, Arjay, and everything to do with the nature of the business Scotty is in. He has nowhere left to cut, in terms of his cost structures, and little opportunity, it would seem, to expand either. His only hope, I suggest, would be to find a low-volume, high(er) value niche, where he can safely operate without competition from businesses with a lower cost structure. If the volumes are sufficiently low, overseas competitors simply wouldn't bother to tool up. And if the unit value is sufficiently high, Scotty can build in a more comfortable margin for himself.

If you are looking for an example of how the carbon tax will cripple Australia's competitiveness, this is the wrong one.
Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 7:59:43 AM
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arjay your rudeness and hostility say more about you than others.
That closed mind of yours often tells others we talk BS.
I have a question.
Is Scotty real? or is he a teddy bear left over from your childhood toys.
Labors co2 tax slavery.
It must be awful the impacts haveing been felt up to 4 years before implementation.
Any Chance the shock wave knocked over the twin towers?
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 8:45:14 AM
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Hey Belly said;
It must be awful the impacts haveing been felt up to 4 years before implementation.

You mean like spending being removed from 2012-2013 and income being
moved in ?

Real remote control hey !
Do you think the council will let me pay next years rates a year later ?
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 30 November 2011 10:49:34 AM
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