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civilisation and war

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War is being fought between nations even in this modern era.The main reason for the war is a parochial mindset.Fanaticism of nation,religion, region,language and the like leads to the development of parochialism in the immature minds.Killing another person in the name of region, religion, nation and the like is the most uncivilsed act. The inference is that man has not civilised fully still. A civilised society will not go to war with another society.Therefore if we want to call ourselves a Civilised societiy we must gradually reduce the military and finally disband.
Posted by Ezhil, Thursday, 17 November 2011 4:11:20 PM
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But why would you want to call ourselves a civilized society?

The word "civil" is derived from the Latin word for "city": people of the city live in higher density and therefore must observe rules of order and courtesy, so "civilized" means "of the city".

Do we really want a society of the city?

Cities are the basis of nations. Also, what mistakenly became commonly known as "religion" has nothing to do with God, but is rather a cynical tool of nationality in disguise. Nations are supposed to peaceful within, but not with each other. In fact, the two world-wars were fought between civilized nation states.

It's a pure matter of ecology that when a race outgrows the planet's carrying-capacity, something will bring it down to a reasonable size: in the absence of famines and plagues, it is likely to be wars. Wars are natural, but not on today's national scale. Nations are way too big to be considered natural.

The way to stop, or at least reduce, wars, is to limit the human population, leave the cities behind and live sparsely on the land.

Civilization is not the solution - it is the problem. It causes a sharp spike in population, followed by an inevitable catastrophic crash, if not even total extinction of the human race.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 17 November 2011 10:30:10 PM
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Just look at how violent the occupy movement have proven to be and you will see how far we are from being 'çivilised'. The funny thing is that many of them claim to be anti war but are happy to be violent.
Posted by runner, Friday, 18 November 2011 12:54:08 AM
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I well come the author.
But must say I disagree with the idea we must be civil to put and end to wars.
It is human nature, survival instinct, plus our greed that makes for war.
Look at runners contribution.
Look truly look, his fixed Christian fundamentalism , is blinding him.
In a world that has children bought and sold as sex slaves.
Mass shooting of unarmed protesters, see yet again this weekends story's of MURDERS in Syria, Friday prayers,
And consider from what pit of neo conservative right Christian right, is that fantasy of violence coming?
Peace would be more achievable if we had no religions.
But too if we had less freedom, and of most importance more education.
Education is a must for every human child, not indoctrination, a basic truth must be told humanity is one.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 18 November 2011 4:26:06 AM
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Ezhil, this is an interesting topic. We probably need to consider how the emotion of "hatred" is a driving force behind conflicts and how it leads to violence. "Hatred" generates a degree of irrationality, and hence inhibits coexistence in societies. Religion can be equally a destructive as well as a positive force. Perhaps Karl Marx was correct with "..religion is the opiate of the masses..." Perhaps the Middle East would be a quieter place without religion?
Posted by Bempec, Friday, 18 November 2011 8:34:23 AM
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Funny the atheist and non religous murder more than the many religous fruitcakes put together. Just look at the mass slaughter of the unborn. Even the Israelies have some of hope of detecting mad suicide bombers. The babies are murdered without voice. When a nation is this wicked we are capable of any other wickedness.
Posted by runner, Friday, 18 November 2011 9:15:01 AM
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