Banjo, had a good morning thanks.
Never would have thought it would have replaced my punters hat.
But its been 12 months from my last bet.
Buying not selling and not intending to, I am working on my garden.
6 new day Lilly's and 8 Irises to brighten up a corner.
Off to another soon.

Now, let me clearly say this some laws some acts need fighting, I will fight and appose them.
But look, lets think about Individuals concerns.
This country is party to international sea law, is money a reason to dump that?
I use the following to show a thought pattern not insult believers.
Christianity has rules, take the ten commandments.
I think they prove the brilliance of mankind's mind.
laws to live by.
IN the interests of keeping the load on the truck, keeping our ability to live together a live.
Aborigines had laws too, based on the same rules, rules even about intermarriage.
American Indians did.
RULES why do others think we make them.

I wasn't objecting to rescuing people. I thought that came through clear enough.
I'm querying the fact that a millionaire adventurer gets help to the tune of a million or more but a normal citizen has to fork out for a ride in an Ambulance if not a subscriber. it's a matter of constant imbalance not a wish to deny anyone. Why do I fork out thousands to send my kid to school whilst others literally get it all free because they're deemed different somehow even though they have better paid jobs than I. Why does one non-indigenous kid's parents have to pay for a school excursion whilst the other 50 indigenous kids don't ? Why does a non-indigenous husband/father have to pay school fees yet an indigenous one doesn't ? Why do genuine applicants to come to Australia get put through the grinder whilst the illegals get literally pampered. Aren't Australians running Australia anymore ?

Australians never ran this country.
Border control, policy of both sides.
Is a secondary to both leaders, both are failures.
Gillard should go to Nehru, Abbott should bend.
Air Sea rescue costs, no civilized country thinks cash first.
nanny state example.
Great trees in Newcastle City, in real danger of falling.
Council wants to remove them and replant.
Such trees can weight big time, and do kill on falling and fall often.
Both sides of the debate defame the other trees still stand if one falls on a school bus?
Council will, what ever the out come, be blamed.
Nanny state or doing its duty?

If we all worked towards EVERYONE having a very good Education ,with everyone knowing what makes the planet and ourselves tick I think the Nanny State would not be required .
For some People help is required to get them up to speed - to deny the poor ,uneducated, a chance to do as well as us is simply evil and destructive of that group's future - Tony Abbott and his well heeled snooters seem to hate giving the dissadvantaged a helping hand .
I think it ads to their insecurity - the sooner wealth is spread about in a fairer way the better .

Belly, I hope you are breeding your own daylily new colours. It is easy.

I have trouble with native bees pinching all the pollen at first light, so have to bag what looks like tomorrows bloom to get any.

Just dab a bit of pollen on the other flowers, & most set seeds. Put the seeds in the fridge for about 6 weeks to "finish" them, & plant.

Each seed pod will have a dozen or more seeds, & each seed will produce a plant with a different coloured bloom.

Only one in a hundred will be a bit special, but those few make it really interesting.

Back on topic, Jim, we may have an education system dumbing down continually, making the production of engineers rather hard, but anyone who did not get a good helping of the "3Rs" has no one but themselves to blame.

Even a teacher/academic basher like me, finds our basic schooling perfectly adequate, for everyone to prosper, if they want to work at it a little. For ordinary average kids to come out of our system with no 3Rs takes some effort on the kids part to fail.

Hasbeen , I did not explain my point enough.
Children do well from day 1 with the right motivation ;you expect too much of kids whose parents may be struggling with a myriad of problems or where money ,drive and Education has not been a feature of their family's previous generations .
These kids and a lot of their parents ,who do have potential need A LOT of help and Motivation .
If we don't help them we should stop wingeing about them .
Eventually as the numbers increase - one way or another we will pay .