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Carbon tax and why Tony Abbot's team changed their minds
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Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 30 October 2011 4:54:14 AM
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Hi Shadow Minister,
Yes. I have patience, because the argument, and history, are coming to me. Because, and this is what many ignore in this debate, if you win, then the world is irreparably damaged within a few generations. I would far rather be fighting my fight than yours. Cheers, Anthony http://ww.observationpoint.com.au Posted by Anthonyve, Sunday, 30 October 2011 7:27:38 AM
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Succinctly put, Anthonyve.
Posted by thinker 2, Monday, 31 October 2011 7:21:34 PM
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Especially the "I would far rather be fighting my fight than yours", bit.
Posted by thinker 2, Monday, 31 October 2011 7:23:26 PM
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Anthony,
It is nice to dream. And probably in a decade the rest of the world might move. In the interim, the Australian economy will suffer, and there will be no change in global emissions. Reality sucks. Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 5:37:34 AM
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SM, "the Australian economy will suffer".
I remember similar fears based on unfounded assumptions about the GST, the carbon tax being a smaller impost. Economists, Treasury, etc seem to be disagreeing with your assumption. However, we will see how it pans out. Posted by TrashcanMan, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:43:15 PM
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"The world will absolutely fall in behind global warming action within the next couple of years. Why? because it's real and cannot be ignored much longer."
Wanna bet? They ignored it at Copenhagen.
No one has as high a tax as Australia nor are they planning to. South Korea, has no carbon tax and is only mulling an ETS. They have set a "target" of 30% below business as usual. Which considering that their emissions doubled from 1990 to 2005 is not a reduction at all.
Sorry, but Australia is way out ahead on its own.
Can you provide more than hope and wishful thinking?