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Can we discuss matters of race any more on OLO?

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Well Bazz, the unfortunate truth is that the bulk of Aboriginals are our blood relatives in the very literal sense,we can't disown them even if we wanted to, they're part of our extended family. That's the mess racial assimilation leaves behind, haves and have nots, in groups and out groups, castes based on skin colour alone.
Anyone contemplating racially mixed marriage might want to study the very real consequences for their offspring, it isn't something I'd inflict upon a child.
Mix one race with another and you create a caste system, if it hadn't happened in every single case throughout history I wouldn't be pointing it out.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 1 October 2011 11:18:28 AM
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Individual

Bolt's "apt description" was proven to be based on false claims. Claims he knew or at least should have known to be false. In fact Andrew Bolt could be caught out in the majority of his articles for distorting information, omitting facts or outright lying to persuade readers to his want. And he's bloody good at it.

Bolt and the news ltd papers have a virtual monopoly over the information many people in Australia use to form their opinions on all matters of public interest. Furthermore, lazy journalism in mainstream TV media follow the easy path and go along with it. Then there's Alan Jones and the like. This creates the public opinion that leads to polls that low-mettle political parties base their policy making on.

Is it good that public policy is influenced by false information? Is that how you envisage democracy working
Posted by TrashcanMan, Saturday, 1 October 2011 11:43:18 AM
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One final post on this subject abd I quote from David Marr's
article in the Sydney Morning Herald:

"Judge Bromberg is not telling the media what we can say
or where we can poke our noses. He's saying that if
Andrew Bolt of the Herald Sun wants to accuse people of
appalling motives, he should start by getting his facts
straight."

"Bolt was wrong. Spectacularly wrong. In 2 famous columns in
2009 he took a wipe at "political" or "professional" or
"official" Aborigines who could pass for white but chose to
identify as black for personal or political gain, to win
prizes and places reserved for "real," black Aborigines abd
to borrow "other people's glories."

"Even Bolt's lawyers HAD to concede even before this case
began in Federal Court that all nine of these named
"White Aborigines," had identified as black from childhood.
All nine came to court to say they didn't choose this down
the track but were raised as Aborigines."

"Their evidence was NOT contested by Bolt or his paper. So
as they say in the trade. No story!"

"Yet Bolt went at it with mockery, derision, and sarcasm.
They are Judge Bromberg's words. He added,"...the language
utilised in the newspaper articles was inflammatory and
provocative."

As Marr tells us, "Bolt's now making a list of convincing
denials to explain his mistakes, language and motives.
Denials are one of his great talents: with a smile on his
face and his hand on his heart he's happy to claim the
purest of motives evn in the unhappiest circumstances.
Usually works like a charm."

Thankfully, not with Judge Bromberg!

See you all on another thread. I've had enough of wasting
my time on this one.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 1 October 2011 11:47:25 AM
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Bolt and the news ltd papers have a virtual monopoly over the information many people in Australia
Trashcanman,
yes, but how does this monopoly differ from the monopolies reared by the guilt industry ?
I for one can not get myself to subscribe to the two wrongs make a right philosophies of the feigned indignation brigade be they black, white or as in this case debatable.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 1 October 2011 11:54:31 AM
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Because the newspaper decides who from the so-called "guilt industry" gets validated and who gets derided. Simple as that.
Posted by TrashcanMan, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:00:31 PM
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Graham you created a slice of Australia here.
I see denial, dislike, inventive statements.
I see too much posting of an opinion, without reading others contributions.
All views got a run.
But I am reminded often, far too often comments come from people who know ZERO about these people.
IF ONLY we could without the blindness investigate and understand why shanty's still exist.
Some left, not me, want to blame any one, to cuddle the poor down trodden for another 200 years, build new soon to be old shanty towns.
The right wants? never truly knew.
I have answered your question, the threads title, in my posts.
I see Lexi,s anger, but stand by my path.
In my posts I told of false claims to be Aboriginal, gave numbers highlighted it is fact.
I told of jobs, very well paid, permanent, put a side for Aboriginals, given to whites.
I Even put truly existing fueled by poor or no education Black racism on the table.
I know, and respect, you are conservative, and that Andrew Bolt is both loved and loathed.
I loath him, forever, ten others like him.
He too, if he was not forever farming headlines could have said as I have here.
We can talk about race,we should talk about it.
Even more we should do something about it.
From within the best of this community a cry to end sit down money to earn not receive to help but not serve must be heard.
Those who wish, BY AUSTRALIAN LAW can go to a mission shanty town and get close enough then asked to be excepted as ? Australian Aboriginal with papers to prove it!
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 1 October 2011 12:15:08 PM
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