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The Forum > General Discussion > Can we discuss matters of race any more on OLO?

Can we discuss matters of race any more on OLO?

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Ammonite,

If I were to make claims from which I could gain materially, then I couldn't really complain if someone questioned some of the grounds for any benefits which might flow, perhaps for life, from those claims.

Currently, I am not making any claims on ethnic/race/class or gender grounds, so I guess I would be happy to advise Bolt to go for it.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:47:57 AM
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Loudmouth

You really did not answer my question. Bolt publishes lies, untruths, falsehoods about some people - would you tell him to "go for it" were he to publish lies about you?

Trashcanman

I agree with the gist of your post. However there were definitive reasons for the methods Eaton & Co. used for their actions - haven't time to locate right now, must go. They were not seeking monetary gain thru their actions merely to focus (successfully) on what a load of rubbish Bolt publishes.
Posted by Ammonite, Thursday, 6 October 2011 11:54:41 AM
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Ammonite,

Short answer: yes.

Longer answer: I would seek to defend myself from lies and ask for evidence, especially from someone in a high-profile position, which I'll agree might be difficult.

But if I were to claim something from which I was to derive benefits, then I would be fair game. And so would he be for his lies, in the same arena, of public debate and criticism.

It's not Aboriginal people's fault if they happen to be pale. But if they also have never copped any of the slings and arrows of government policy, or had to grow up in the long shadow of those policies, while many others have, and many much darker Aboriginal people at that, then there is at least some ambivalence about their moral right to make claims on benefits which were manifestly intended for other people.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:10:55 PM
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I think Joe Loudmouth is being his own mum and dad here, he like me could say more.
But the very title and substance of the thread stops me.
Bolt is a grub, he crafted those words to offend, not every charge was untrue.
Now I could NEVER respect anyone who attempts mischief here to damage the site.
So I can not TRUTHFULLY, expand on my words.
Today, lets be careful.
A separate issue of free speech has arisen.
YOU JUST CAN NOT TALK ABOUT THAT ISSUE HERE
Some who use free speech, support it only if it supports their views.
AUSTRALIANS must fight all PC if an opinion is honestly held we should be able to say it.
Antiseptic consider this, that story can not be seen in its whole because we fear telling the truth may be seen as something else!
As is the case with todays issue.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 6 October 2011 1:46:09 PM
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