"Abbott has already forced the Gov't (through pure political populism), to attempt to change the powers of the Minister in relation to boat people."

Off topic but that's quite different to my understanding of events.

A legal challenge to the governments proposal to relocate boat people/asylum seekers/refugee's/illegal immigrants (pick your preferred term) to Malaysia. That challenge was successful and the government tried to get Abbott to cooperate with a change in the law to get around the courts decision basically by giving the minister additional powers.

Abbott has not cooperated with that plan. Whilst I have little belief that it was out of concern for the well being of the people involved I don't see how you can get out of that Abbott being to blame for an attempt to change the powers of the minister. That one's the governments doing.

Both major parties have played the political game with these people, the political populism is not just Abbott's doing.

R0bert

You can talk about race just dont be racist, bigoted, lie, demean and vilify people. Sadly par for the course for bolt and this forum.

any censorship is a worrying thing grayham..but more so is ignorance..we presumably are not exclusivly talking about race here..but also no doudt other issues such as religeon and sex..

but let fein[pretend]..this topic is purely about race,and not censoring creed or any other issue..we are all aborigonal..[from somewhere]..see the question is a trick question

personally..my root is the netherlands..
my ab/origonal race is from there..others are mixed race..in which case they assume their ab-origonality via their mothers Ab-origon

many have made issues of wetrher they are indigenous...and indeed many are..[see indigenouse means 'sans culture''..like a plant may be said to be indigenouse to this area..[but by being indigenous becuse it has no mindfull awareness of what or who it is..its called indigenous]

now many indigenie...might better be called ab-origonal..but if you dont know your roots..or dont know we al all ab/origonal from somewhere..even if your not recalling or knowing your culture..your still not a mindless plant..[still not indigenous]

because you still got the 'culture' of humanity

now andrew is ignorant
he dont know..he TOO..is ab/origonal
but we can guess he is origonal from somewhere

anyhow..whats the use..we have judges listening to opinion
and the bigger point is bolt got his facts wrong
thats where he stuffed up

also he has a massive readership
whereas we are lucky to have 20 or 30 readers...here

with andrew there is no right of reply..
no instant ability to correct..errors of fact

mate the case simply cant translate

ANYONE can write on these pages
to correct INSTANTLY..errors of fact..

if they dont
then we need to think..
what are they trying to hush up..!

of course we can disscuss..race..
[race is a provable lie]

im a euro..or a caucasion..or im a northern neanderthol..
with deficient pigmentation..[cast out of africa]

heck im not a nederlander
nor a brit..nor irish
im an ozzie

my kids have ozzie culture
just like me..so arnt indigenous
yet know they are ab=/origonal..from holland

a=alpha
b=beta
origonal

we are the beta from the alpha
we are all origonally from somwhere
if you know*..where..your an abo..[ab=origonally from]

if you dont..
its your choice to remain indigenous

heck mate..its on line OPINION
not on line FACT

no more censorship..or change the name
correct error..not ban opinion

heck is this russia
or germany or china or usa
no mate this is aussie..

[sticks and stones mate
how can words ever hurt me?..or hurt you?]

we all
can tell bile from opinion

The story and warning I am about to tell and give are true.
I will stand in any court before any judge and tell them.
I remain a product of my class,do not kid your self, class existed in my youth.
I as no older than 11 years of age under took to help others if possible.
As a proud union official, toward the end of my time in that job, about two years before, I took over and included the duty's with my own, of a less proud union official.
This included NSW government departments.
And special focus on Aboriginals.
I must underline my intention as that 11 years old remains a life support even now.
I found a dreadful situation, bought about by both white racism, HIDDEN by law but still there.
And open black racism.
Another day another thread I will expand.
But after a nightmare, a whole depot whites and Aboriginals being dreadfully treated, by a sexual minority in charge, exposed to great stress and things no workplace should see, minority's rule!
I young aboriginal woman put her trust in me.
She had sponsored a young man , her Friend at the time.
That meant getting the local land council to agree he was Aboriginal.
That all, he was not, she knew it, he got an internal job,set aside like dozens more for Aboriginals only.
He leads a crew of our first Australians, refuses all training about culture admits he has no ancestry , that he knowingly lied.
I despise BOLT he crafted his column as he does every thing.
He feeds on half truth and trouble.
Bolt is half Lady Ga Ga and half Tony Abbott, but as a proud ALP voter.
I REFUSE TO AVOID TRUTH TO WIN A FIGHT.

This story too is true.
I have been tossing and turning all night telling myself not to tell it.
At 2 am unable to sleep I nearly did.
You need first to understand the true poor of my generation did not have cash thrown at them.
Life was very hard.
Hunger too.
And that I tell this story as I have lived my life.
For my belief in Social activism.
My belief in the best in the ALP.
Bolt is a grub, he is a symptom of our hung Parliament.
He is every thing I am against 20 others too.
My fellow ALP travelers this leads me to ask we do not become the worst in Conservative media, that we not leave truth at the front door.
We must continue our great start under Rudd, doing good not bad honesty is our only tool.
40 years ago a young single mum learned from her Friends you got more help if you said you are Aboriginal.
She advised two sisters of this, one wed,took up the idea the other said no.
Bother those women said their dead father was Aboriginal, he was not.
Today 5 brothers still feel hurt and question why.
A gap exists in that family.
As time passed those kids, all white produced more, every one of the next generation became subject to extra help.
No not Aboriginals, oh under law yes fact no.
But two boys and a fine young lady wed in to that proud race.
The girl has treasures we may never have wonderful man and kids.
The boys? left behind both.
Those brothers?
Moved on from a rough start live lower middle class life now.
One of them, a mate and a brother,votes LIBERAL!follows Manly!
Our dad was not Aboriginal.
Is truth of interest? what do we want of our politicians? is it only victory at any price?
What ever the future honesty must pay a roll or we are nothing.
PS GO MANLY BRO!