The Malaysian legislation is being pushed "right now" so it can be neutralised as a political issue as quickly as possible.

Maybe you should consider the remote possibility that some things are just as they seem and not part of some elaborate scheme for world domination and the deliberate destruction of society as we know it (for some completely unimaginable reason).

Considering that Brown is supporting the Carbon option but strongly against the Malaysian one, it's hard to see that they are somehow in cahoots with each other to overthrow anything let alone influence a surge toward World Communism.

Abbott's Carbon alternative will be like cutting the excise on tobacco and then paying smokers to cut down, costing the taxpayer even more for a lesser outcome. He'll be wasting your money on something he probably doesn't even believe in.

Combined with his preferred Nauru solution, how do his altenative versions fit into this global plot, or is it just the lefties who are behind this sinister scheme?

Hasbeen/arjay you both have the right to think as you will.
Arjay your constant inference my thoughts and ideas are a symptom of my blindness refocuses on you.
Gentlemen have you noticed how few agree with you.
An idea arjay that needs to denigrate others views to find support is in all probability in need of review.
I can find no reason to continue contributions to a thread that sees arjay denigrating others opinions and hasbeen scraping the bottom of an unlikely barrel to find a nonexistent reason to support his views.
Leave you to it.

Wobbles,Leaders all around the planet from Gordon Brown,Barak Obama,Henry Kissenger,Al Gore,both of the Bushes have expressed their desire for Global Governance via their New World Order.

There seems to be real denial here that they want it to happen and by many,that it will be a solution to environmental degradation as well as stopping wars.The Greens and Bob Brown with their communist agenda are taking us to our worst nightmare.Brown pretends to warm and cuddly on social justice issues such as boat people,yet is bringing economic devestation to this counrty with his policies.

Globlal warming is not happening and they are not confronting real environment issues such as fracking,heavy metal pollution,and the toxic pollutants of shipping via low grade bunker oil.

Arjay, please take a Bex and have a nice lie down.
B*H* UOG, could you please stop writing like you have a bad stutter !
Belly, I thought you meant 40M, I can't hear RGL here.
Personal msgs off.

Regarding the opposition, I think they are waiting for the Durban
conference to be a failure to dump their CO2 policy.
The problem they will all have is the science under the AGW is shifting.
They are all maneuvering to get the best times to suit and Julia is
probably trying to out maneuver her challengers.

Bazz, you say:

"the science under the AGW is shifting" (sic)

Would you care to back that up? Seriously, just don't repeat what you read or hear in the MSM.

If you can't reinforce your statement with primary sources or research findings, you are only engaging in ideological guff, misrepresentation and distortion - awash on a site like this.

While you may not be doing it deliberately, your unsubstantiated assertion (much like Arjay's, whom you have told to "take a Bex and have a nice lie down") will nevertheless contribute to observer's confusion about something that they generally really know very little about.

Bazz, go to the scientific literature, you will find that the science is getting more robust.

I agree though, some politicians have a lot to answer for (and OUG is difficult to read).

I wonder when our next stinulus package is coming? Our current Government has already blown billions taking us into deficit in such a short period of time. Nothing short of idiotic. If your kids did that with their personal finance you would smack their bums.

The funny thing is that these UN chiefs who could not manage their own economies now want to rule the worlds economy. They need their gw lies and deceit in order to appear to be the solution to the problems made up in their heads and by their own incompetencies. The Greens beliefs/lies about having Australia run on wind farms is a good example of this. They are so indulgent they could not possible give up the luxuries brought about by coal. They want to impose on others what they are totally unwilling to do for themselves.