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US Presidency; Media tries to shun Ron Paul

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Texas Congressman Ron Paul has scored consistantly high in his straw polls over the last year. http://www.dailypaul.com/173497/c-span-live-coverage-of-ames-straw-poll-begins-today-1130-am At the recent Iowa poll he was within 1% point of Michelle Bachmann but the media will not even mention him as a serious contender.Paul is doing this on a miniscule budget compared to his competition.Why? The American public have woken up to the scams of Wall St and the US Federal Reserve.Ron Paul wants to end the US Fed and its' monopoly powers of money creation.

Ron wants to go back to sound money and let the big boys fail.The US Govt is in over $14 trillion debt due to bailouts of banks,the endless wars and wasteful Govt spending.Obama has now increased the debt ceiling by $2.3 trillion.Rick Perry has now jumped on the Ron Paul wagon saying that the US Federal Reserve needs to be audited.The tactic here is to try and divide the Paul support.

The corporate establishment are in absolute terror of a potential Ron Paul Presidency because he is honest,incorrupable and means what he says.Can he win?
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 21 August 2011 8:49:01 AM
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I think he can win - but what a difference it would make!

America's troops withdrawn to within its borders. No more empire of perpetual war, constantly bombing third world countries.
The Fed abolished; and the supply of money thrown open to competition. The banking cartel abolished. The cosy relationship between the military/industrial complex, the big corporations, government and banking, broken open.
No more constant inflation, with all its attendant disturbance and ruination. Businesses funded from savings rather than debt.
The abolition, phasing out, or great reduction of all the unconstitutional departments, which is just about all of them. Is the power listed in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution? No? Then it's illegal and should be abolished. No more federal agents bristling with weapons breaking into people's houses to bust people for the "crime" of smoking dope. No more prisons overflowing with non-criminals.
The states instead would provide, or not provide, such "services", which means there would be greater competition between them and much greater choice for the ordinary people.
The demilitarisation of the police force and of American society.
Freedom to sell lemonade without the lemonade Nazis criminalising it! http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/93409.html

The re-legalisation of civil society and productive activity.

Won't the statists, and the socialists, and the fascists, and the interventionists, and the Keynesians, and the high priests hate it?

BTW Arjay, note that Ron Paul favours open competition in the supply of money, not a government monopoly
Posted by Peter Hume, Sunday, 21 August 2011 11:00:47 AM
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Peter ,I'm a great supporter of Ron Paul also.While I don't agree with everything he espouses,he has the fundamentals right.We need smaller Govt that is far less interventionist.Right now we in reality have a corporate socialist system in which they capitalise the profits and socialise the losses.It is corporate socialism/communism.

If we are to allow the private banking system to create from nothing the money to equal our increases in productivity + inflation,then serious changes have to be made to let all members in our society share in what is rightfully theirs.

Banks are a special enterprises unlike other industries.For private banks to have the power of money creation,there should be no shareholders,since this gives the few who have money to take from the masses when thay have not added to productivity.

Depositors or workers who have an account with any bank should automatically become shareholders.In this way they will share in their own increases productivity.You rightfully are suspicious like Ron Paul of Govt control of money creation.I believe with a proper constitution it can work.However,under a private system it can also work if we make the lowest income earner share in their own increases in productivity be being shareholders by virtue of opening a bank account.This will mean higher interest earned by them via the creation of new money instead of private central banks owning and creating all money.In other words we eliminate central banks and give this power to savings banks and credit unions.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 21 August 2011 4:48:35 PM
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I didn't know much about Ron Paul, so looked him up today.

I thought he sounded quite bright about the financial problems affecting the US, and the fact that he had many of his own ideas about politics, rather than following one of the major parties.

However, as soon as I read that he was involved with the Tea Party movement in the US, which includes that dipstick, Sarah Palin, I have to say that I hope he doesn't become President.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement#Membership_and_demographics
"The Bloomberg National Poll of adults 18 and over showed that 40% of Tea Party supporters are 55 or older, compared with 32% of all poll respondents; 79% are white, 61% are men and 44% identify as "born-again Christians",[76] compared with 75%,[77] 48.5%,[78] and 34%[79] for the general population, respectively."

America has enough problems as it is!
Posted by suzeonline, Sunday, 21 August 2011 8:00:44 PM
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Suze you are quite correct! Paul wants to ban abortions, next
he'll be talking to the Lord for help, like Bush used to.
It did not work too well, just look at the mess he made of the
US economy.

Arjay remains confused about the Fed, but he's beyond help so
its hardly worth commenting. Suffice to say, of the 92 billion
they earned in 2010, something like 89 billion went to the
Federal treasury. A bit like our Reserve Bank, which pays profits
to Canberra.

Most Australians are already shareholders in banks, even if many
are not aware of it. Anyone who has money in a super fund, would
be a part owner of our banks, for they all own a stake in them.
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 21 August 2011 8:24:49 PM
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Yabby you have no idea what you are talking about.The $ 89 billion which you say that the Fed gives to the US Govt is less than 10% of what they create from nothing to equal the American people's increases in productivity + populuation.The Us economy has a $ 15 trillion GDP.Inflation + increases = 6% in normal times.This is $ 900 billion pa and they give a mere 10% back and you call this a good deal?

This is not the Fed's money in the first place.The value of $ 900 billion belongs to the US people and they under the present system,have to pay it back with interest.It is theft!

Since 2008 the US Fed has created from nothing $ 18 trillion and loaned it out to Govts and institutions all around the planet.Very little of this went into the real economy.This is why jobs and businesses are evaporating.It went to the big end of town to buy depreciated assets,bailouts and inflate the derivative bubble.This again was stealing from the people and charging interest on it.

If you cannot understand these realities there is no point in you making anymore comments.

Suzanonline, you like many cannot understand the important issues.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 22 August 2011 5:50:07 AM
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