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Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 6:05:50 PM
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Re: << My statement about Australia being a dull, self-satisfied and joylessly confromist country was in reference to -what Australia was in the 1950/60s. >>
It’s amazing that those who seem to exhibit a reverence for multiculturally endorsed cultures . Are so quick to devalue the OZ culture/experience. Speaking with those who grew-up during the 1950/60s . It it’s apparent that while many found life tough at times, it was full diverse of interests and activities. The fact that some saw such times as “dull” might well have more to do with the circles they moved in --or perhaps, the barrow they are constantly pushing The richness that many see today has more to do with technology than any cultural mix/enrichment --- in fact, if the western world had not been so distracted –and hamstrung – by cultural games, technological progress might have made us all a lot healthier , happier and better informed. Re << I've discovered the corruption to which Abdul. J.,referred to earlier. It was the "Cash for Visas," scandal that happened in 2001 in which Philip Ruddock…>> BUT ,how many were convicted in a court of law (as opposed to convicted by rumour and innuendo) ? “Australian Federal Police have cleared Attorney-General Philip Ruddock of allegations that he was influenced by donations when granting visas” http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/31/1080544556304.html Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 7:03:27 PM
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Dear SPQR,
A few historical facts for your information: 1) Until the early 1970s, assimilation and the preservation of "White Australia," continued as the Australian Government's official policies. 2) Migrants of every ethnic origin were expected to assimilate promptly into a monocultural mould of Australian identity, based on the Anglo-Saxon and Celtic culture. 3) The ideal immigrant was the one who assimilated easily, one who became more similar to the host population as a result of social interaction and through the shedding of all attributes of their culture. In the meantime, the postwar diversification in Australian immigrants' backgrounds continued and this was becoming more and more evident in all walks of life. The new face of Australia was in existence, long before the politicians and civic leaders were prepared to admit it. The very presence of foreign languages and foreign language press in Australia mirrored the nation's growing cultural diversity. Yet, antipathy was not lacking. Migrants were not always treated as equals. However, several other factors combined to erode, and finally eliminate in 1966, the White Australia and Government-promoted assimilation policies. The contributing factors included generally changing social attitudes, war service, travel, foreign students in Australia, discrimination in registering British subjects after 1948, and the confusion in the 1950s over the control of non-Europeans' entry. The revised immigration policy allowed new people to come and settle in Australia: people from a wide range of nationalities, races, religions, and cultures. By the end of the 1970s, Australia had acquired an unmistakably new heterogeneous face. The official Government policies reflected these social developments. They moved from "assimilation," to "integration," and then, to "multicultrualism." The Galbally Report (1978) was the turning point, when it urged the Australian Government "to encourage...the retention of the cultural heritage of different ethnic groups and promote intercultural understanding." Since then, the Australian Government has re-defined "multiculturalism" several times. One simplified definition states, "Multiculturalism...involves living together with an awareness of cultural diversity." And at present Australia is one of the most ethnically diverse societies in the world. Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 8:09:41 PM
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Dear SPQR, There's more to the story regarding Mr Ruddock. 1)The Senate inquiry into Mr Ruddock's ministerial indiscretions under the Immigration Act has cleared him - Grudgingly - according to a Law website had you bothered to check. 2) The Committee accused Mr Ruddock of obstruction and called for urgent reforms. 3) The Committee demanded reform of the Ministerial Discretion System. Lack of transparency and accountability made it vulnerable to corruption, the majority report said. 4) The big reason that the Committee had to clear Mr Ruddock was because the Immigration Department was being obstructive. 5) "The Committee was denied access to relevant Departmental files and Officer's notes that could have cleared the Attorney-General of any wrongdoing..." 6)"This was clearly done deliberately by the Government to protect Mr Ruddock from further scrutiny." This scandal was reported on Lateline, ABC, SBS, Sydney Morning Herald, and other sources. Do your research for the full story. There's quite a bit of in-depth coverage. Finding a person innocent does not make them so. It simply means they were not allowed to have access to the evidence in this particular case. The law is the law - that's why justice wears a blindfold. Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 8:24:08 PM
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Lexi,
You are certainly entitled to your opinion as I am. I grew up in that era, in a large country town, and we found it quite exciting. The war had been over for a long time and it was a prosperous time. There were plenty of local popular artists and groups puting out songs and regular dances were held. 10.00 o'clock closing came in. We thought it nothing to pool money for petrol and drive to the coast or Sydney to attend big shows. We had access to European and Chinese cusine. There was plenty happening on the refined cultural front as well. The Opera House was completed and I think Melbourne hosted the Olympics in 1956. Not to mention the Snowy Scheme and millions of migrants that integrated into our society. Like today we had footy, cricket, golf and surfing. Wool prices were booming and industry was doing well. People could actually buy a block of land, build a garage and live in that whilst building their house, and thousands did just that. Hardly a dull era. That argument is a furphy, put out by multiculturalists who ignore the baggage that some cultures bring to our shores. Much to our detriment I am certainly not happy with the drug culture that came with MC, nor the alien beliefs and practices of some cultures. In my view, we should stop the importation of people of some cultures that cannot or will not integrate and become part of our society. Some have been here 2-3 generations and still refer to themselves as Lebs. Posted by Banjo, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 8:57:24 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/national/man-accused-of-sending-hate-mail-to-soldiers-families-appeals-20110823-1j8lj.html
I should back out of the thread while the kind words are being thrown at me. Call the Gentleman the link is about what he is, holder of a minority view. I should loudly, clearly, warn he is but one. I should refrain from saying I fear not the races that are Muslim. Not the religion . I fear, in my understanding,sections of this religion, has followers anchored in the middle ages, a place man has left far behind. Ah nasty Belly, you open wounds, let infection in,but no. I actually invite racists not to reply, from both sides. But if we ignore the very real damage a few can do,we blind our selves. I think my country should reject people like this man, in my view he and those like him are unwanted. And as ugly as the KKK. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 3:40:51 AM
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BTW: I've discovered the corruption to which Abdul. J.,
referred to earlier. It was the "Cash for Visas," scandal
that happened in 2001 in which Philip Ruddock was
involved. Google it for yourself. Apparently Dante Tan
had his visa cancelled in September 2001, and he made a
donation of $10,000 at Philip Ruddock's campaign launch.
One month after the donation of $10,000 the cancellation
of Mr Tan's visa was re-instated. Six months later, Mr Tan
was granted Australian Citizenship. At the time Mr Tan
was the Philippines most wanted fugitive.
There were even more scandals regarding Mr Ruddock's
granting of visas. As I said - simply Google the subject.
The websites are there.