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In my 22 years in Australia and some how direct link to this issue I find it very confusing look like every know about immigration policies and acctually when you dealt them personally, you will come to know that every one have thier own interpretation about immigration policies and that confusion push you in the hand of corruption or find wrong way to solve your immigration problem.
Posted by Abdul.J, Friday, 19 August 2011 12:08:17 PM
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Welcome, and I hope you are treated with generosity and under standing here.
And also that you are who and what you say you are.
You did not give the problems you have had so it is hard to answer.
I ask that you understand fear exists on both sides of this debate, but understanding too.
The corrupt acts you speak of are always wrong.
Not quite sure what you have faced but hope you can get some help, be careful on line, do not leave a trail others can find you by , unmasking corruption demands personal safety.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 19 August 2011 5:21:49 PM
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"And also that you are who and what you say you are."

Dont worry belly, its not me...but I too welcome the question.....

Sir, your words of corruption are well understood and the unforgivable, for what human nature is, I say all countries must look at the scale of immigration. Having nice handed thoughts of refined humanity which all posses in some shape or form, given that the head count per situation, with all commonsensical numbers should dictate the volume of guesses and just not the need to act.

LEAP
Posted by Quantumleap, Friday, 19 August 2011 5:46:04 PM
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Good Evening Mr Abdul. J.,

Welcome to the Forum.

I'm not sure what sort of problems you have
experienced but it is a concern that you
state that there are different interpretations
to the Immigration Act that push people towards
corruption. (that is - corrupt officials?).

Of course there will be unregistered Immigration
Agencies that will try to take advantage of
desperate people. However, Immigration advice and
Application Assistance Schemes are provided by the
Government - and the advice is free.

The following websites may be useful:

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/62assistance.htm

And:

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/63advice.htm

There is also professional Immigration Barristers and
Solicitors that charge for their services. One of the
most reputable is Sasha-Hendrick Beyderwellen:

http://www.beyderwellen.com/

I'm not sure if this information is of any use to you.
As I'm still not clear what your problems are.
Anyway, I hope it helps.
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 19 August 2011 7:17:22 PM
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"to solve your immigration problem"? After 22 years?

Your statement is poorly expressed, so I am not sure what you mean, but I will go off in a tangent anyway. Instead of being happy for the blessings of a free society, you express only unhappiness because of "your" immigration problem. What is the problem? Is it what those horrible infidels do and say, or is it what they won't let you do?

Let me be frank - I suppose you are Muslim, and because you are Muslim I seriously doubt that you can or will accept the values that have traditionally defined Western and Australia values - personal liberty, equality, freedom of speech, choice, religion and speech, and particularly separation of religion from state. I don't see these in Islamic societies and I doubt that the average Muslim immigrant is any different from the average Muslim in Iraq, Egypt, Pakistan or elsewhere.

To many infidels, it seems that Muslims leave islamic societies because of the mess that islam has made, and then bring those same intolerant and destructive values with them to screw up non-Muslim societies. Thank you very much, just what we need.

Unlike other, kinder, sweeter people here at OLO, I have very little affection for Muslims and less for Islam (this may be related to the fact that some followers of Mohammad thought their god and prophet wanted them to kill me and my family for having an opinion they don't like). Yes, there are some good Muslims, but overall, collectively, they are a big minus in the balance sheet. Western societies will rue the day they let Muslims bring Allah and Mohammad into their societies.

But then again, because you are Muslim and therefore deserve special privileges, and because under official multicultural dogma you don't have to accept "Australian" values, maybe they will bend the rules for you.

I don't know what your problem is, but I suggest you use the words "racist" and "islamophobe" when interacting with officials. That usually works wonders.
Posted by kactuz, Saturday, 20 August 2011 7:00:26 AM
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Let me add a few thoughts, from this link:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/how-i-lost-faith-in-multiculturalism/story-fn59niix-1226031793805

Quote: "But the only people who don't think there is a problem with Islam are those who live on some other planet. The reputation of Islam in the West is not poor because of prejudiced Western Islamophobia, still less because Western governments conduct some kind of anti-Islamic propaganda. Instead, it is the behaviour of people claiming the justification of Islam for their actions that affects the reputation of Islam."

and

"These sorts of discussions (about Muslim immigration) take place all the time among senior officials, politicians and others. But I have never encountered a policy area in which private and public positions are so different. It is right to be sensitive and avoid needless offence. It is wrong to avoid reality altogether in such an important area of national policy. No one in Europe, 25 years ago, thought they would be in the mess they're in today... But the truth is not all immigrants are the same."

Abdul, it is a shame that I have to write hard words like these to you - a person I don't even know, but I think it is best to be honest and say what I think. I am perfectly willing to reconsider my position when Muslims start treating others as they want to be treated, end discrimination against non-Muslims in Islamic societies, and denounce the hate and violence in the Quran and hadith - particularly the violent, barbaric actions of Mohammad against peaceful neighbors.

You must understand that this infidel has read the hadith and therefore he finds it difficult to believe that Muslims - a people who say "praise be upon him" after the name of Mohammad and consider him a great moral example - will live in peace and harmony with non-Muslims. It is just a matter of time and numbers and then things will explode, causing pain and suffering to good people, and I will get no satisfaction for being right.
Posted by kactuz, Saturday, 20 August 2011 7:59:26 AM
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