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Hello Abdul J.
Welcome to this often rigorous forum.
I am afraid that certain Political Leaders, in the past have caused a lot of misunderstanding about the Muslim faith, and those who practice it.
It would be more beneficial to all people if they asked about, or even researched the Muslim faith, so that they could find that the Koran teaches a very gentle religion, and respecting other Faiths around the World. Unfortunately some of the more radical Muslims have given most Muslims a bad name., and even Christians can be radical and corrupt Christianity. What really annoys me, is that if non-Muslim people would ask intelligent questions, or even research the Koran, instead of leaping to judge that which they know nothing about, and if people stopped the scare tactics about Muslims, they might find that everybody can live together, blending their cultures and faith in a compatible manner, both Muslims and Christians have to stop this "them and us' attitude. My message to all is this:, 'Rather than condemn that which you don't know, learn and understand instead.
NSB
Posted by Noisy Scrub Bird, Monday, 22 August 2011 9:33:10 AM
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welcome adbul
there seems some confusion as to what you are trying to say

so lets see if we can make it more clear

you clearly say..""you will come to know
that every one..[will]..have thier own interpretation
about immigration policies..and that confusion push[es]
you in[to]..the hand of corruption""

your refering[no doudt]..to the need to deal with criminals
[ie those labled as bad,,the 'people smugglers'']

ie those who take money from others
on often faulse promises

""or find [the]..wrong way
to solve your immigration problem.""

your honesty/sincerity..is in the statement
""In my 22 years in Australia
and some-how""[that confused others]

it might be more clear
by saying as i have a..""direct link to this issue""
[perhaps as a former user of their services?]

the key sems to be
""I find it very confusing""
to look and find info
""every"" [anyone who] know's about immigration policies

and when you dealt them personally,
as you may have..you put it as best as you are able to
in the word context as best as you can

others would like to hear..what you think
lexie has put up links..so if you cant understand what the links are saying..please feel free to ask for it to be made more clear..[others more clever than us will explain]

if you used a translation device to correct your words
trying to be more clear about the issue
its best to say this is what it said

it seems difficult sometimes to get across what we are trying to say
so its best to say how you feel[or what the problem is]

and never be afraid to ask others to explain
what do you mean by this or that

most importantly
dont give up trying
we are all doing the best we can
Posted by one under god, Monday, 22 August 2011 10:33:45 AM
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abdul..quote..""I believe in Australian System""

""and according to that
I can say if not 100% at least 99% Immigration employees
are working honestly,""

BUT..""If this is the case
then why is..the immigration system
not working smoothly..like all others department's in Australia""

""it mean's there is something not right
and that something or hurdel or policy or money or power
what ever it is,""..dosnt seem to be working properly?

""I will request to you please discuss,""this issue..

""If you focus on the news/media about immigration about boat people about overstayers""...or ""about politition""..party politics ""and about refugee advocate statement's""

""I am sure our discussion
will make some sense and point us into right direction
and hopefully fix..the immigration system as well""

you must realise
that this issue..has become a bit of an issue
this is about each..pushing our fears and predudices
onto what should be..a simple humanitarian issue..
Posted by one under god, Monday, 22 August 2011 10:53:08 AM
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Hi
Lexi and Belly thanks again for your concern about me I am sorry for that still I could not clear to myself.
If any of us can get these information from Parlimentr house HENSARD about in or arround 2001 in Libral government once immigartion issue was discussed that One business man from oversease got citizenship just for $10,000 and money deposited into libral party fund Government replied that we did not have any other way to fund over Party expenses.And its not illegale to get these information thanks.
It will give us some direction that why immigrtion system not as smooth as other departments are thanks.
Posted by Abdul.J, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:07:11 PM
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Abdul I see you are here now by the users present list.
I welcome you and look forward to many conversations with you.
To also learn about your experiences here.
But while I greatly admire NSB I disagree with her.
Australians are not unlike any race of humans, we all fear difference, just bet if we set up in your country in our own community's we too would face some concerns.
But know Abdul we too except any one, from Any country, who wants to be one of us.
You will see racist posts, fear driven ones but true honest welcomes here.
It may well be so in the country of your birth.
It is true, no one should doubt, this is a Christian country, but too most are not true followers of any God.
Religion is the rock racism in born and bred on in my view, it may not be shared by all.
Those you talk to here may be the children and grand children of the post world war two migration that helped build this country.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:11:45 PM
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you asked re the hansard debates
here is a link...[it has a search hansard button]
just enter the subject or date or minester

and a search should reveal the info..

http://www.openaustralia.org/?keyword=house%20hansard&creativeid=1117913217&gclid=CMGSzPi5rKcCFQXabgoda1BHAA
Posted by one under god, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:35:16 PM
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