Col Rouge,

Professional ethos is part and parcel of
most professions at least here in Australia.
As for hamburger flippers (?) I'm not
familiar with them. Our family's diet does
not include hamburgers. Perhaps your wife
could enlighten you on that subject.

Yabby - I agree with everything you said in your last post.

some wonder why Asian children do so well at school.... because the idea of "learning" and "self-improvement" is still valued in Asian cultures - it is how you drag yourself out of the rice paddy

QL "Look! you parents are the bosses,"

Yes, QL, that is the theory

I remember when one of my teenage daughters told me she could phone an abuse line if I ever dared smack or punish her

I simply said... "I will call the number for you, immediately after I have whacked you "

I totally agree, parents should be the bosses....

but we need a social environment where parents are respected and supported for disciplining their wayward offspring...

not a society where a bunch of do-gooder psychologists and "experts" on everything, regulate that self indulgent waywardness and destruction (again often self-destruction) is a "childs right" to free expression and parents are not allowed to smack or otherwise punish their "boundary-free", self entitlement absorbed brats.

However, parents know they will have the last laugh

the notion that

"My grand children will be my revenge on my children"

will always hold very, very true.

My wife has probably employed some hamburger flippers in the past, her family are used to having servants - her mother has 4

we don't eat hamburgers either but it is always good to be familiar with how the other half exist

Of course, my wife is a very knowledgable lady generally, Lexi.

She could teach you many things, from human body dissection on a pathologists slab to acupuncture, nutrition (yes no hamburgers), even non-surgical facelift for those sagging jowls so you can try to fight back the years

but what would probably suit you the most .... her training schools have trained hundreds of nail technicians ... you could buff and chat all day with the other "girls" and have exciting discussions on the relative merits of different nail colours, whilst absorbing all those fumes.

or she has some really, really, short courses, one in applying artificial eyelashes-

it only take a couple of hours, so would not stretch or stress your attention span too much.

We are soon to offer them as distant learning packages across the internet send me your email and I will send you a price list

Col....this was my actions............talk and talk until talking is pointless. Pack her bags and take her to the BUS station....give her a hand-full of cash, then walk away.

This is the uncontrollable brat that will not listen to normality, you know the hard-core "know it all types" you know saying, its only when you hit rock bottom....that they realize the true facts of life.

I was just that sort of child......but once reality set in........I was back at home and appreciated what my M&D to the fullest, and never stepped out of line again.

Sometimes its hard being young.

But nothing beats the love of home.....and its people.xoxoxox

LEAP

Lexi, not worth the effort!
Latest news is promising, the Prime Minister has said rioters will be kicked out of council homes, very good.
Lets drop the idea poverty drove them.
Some,see this mornings news own and live in very middle class homes.
We are lucky, as of yet we have not got the problems, but it comes.
For 15 years I have read story's of 8 year olds with guns in Brittan,we know of children shot dead.
We, the middle of society, must not let the margins tell us kids do not need education discipline and boarders.
They do rich or poor some have no idea of respect.
Mainstream has every right indeed duty to protect its self.

Interesting posts from a couple. Could it happen here? In very localised communities, possibly. Could it become as big as the UK? Certainly not in Brisbane. One major problem is simply the lack of public transport and the lack of suitable targets for rage close to home. If a group of kids in Woodridge or Marsden decide to go on a rampage, they'll first have to either steal a car or bum a lift. then they've got to find somewhere convenient to the riot to park or they've got to walk for miles, only to find that all the shops have heavy steel mesh over the windows (because they're in Woodridge). It's simply not going to fly.

Furthermore, there is far too much racial segregation among Australia's poverty-classes. A group of Islanders would never cooperate with a group of Lebboes, let alone a group of white-trash bogans, while the bogans wouldn't be seen dead anywhere near Aboes or African monkeymen (a term heard recently whilst waiting in a queue at the supermarket in Acacia Ridge). Any such riot would degenerate rapidly into a series of inter-racial spats.

Additionally, our poverty classes have already got all the consumer goods they could want thanks to Kev's handouts and the on-going massive redistribution of wealth that is a feature of Australian economic life.

In short, nope, not a chance, except in the most concentrated parts of Melbourne or Sydney, where population density and decent public transport might make it feasible.

It's important to remember when watching the coverage that this is actually confined to small parts of the cities. Just as in Brisbane's flood, most of the city is unaffected and life goes on as normal. The riots can only occur in the presence of that functioning infrastructure to get people to and from.